help with motor type

[dwb]

we are not restorers but boss wants us to find parts for his 1954 Dodge panel truck - so glad to find site - numbers on head are DN 4.39.54 and 15544674-8 - what motor is this? so far no Pre-VIN number found but maybe when we get rust off some - is it on fame someplace ?

suggestions on where to get mostly engine parts??

Carburetor gas M25 DTG1 - who can sell us rebuild parts

thanks and sorry for being a newbie - but boss wants to get it running

 

[Merle Coggins]

The engine number should be stamped into a flat pad just above the generator, at the top edge of the block. Also, measure the length of the head. If it's 23" long it's either a 218 or 230 (assuming flat head 6). 25" long could be several different displacements. Many parts are still available through your local parts stores. I have good luck at Napa. Or you can check the Resources area above for a list of other venders that supply parts. 

Even carburetor kits can be purchased through Napa and etc. Or check online sources such as Mikes Carburators. 

[Don Coatney]

As Merle said the engine number can be found on a "boss" above the generator. Most factory numbers start with a letter such ad D for Dodge, P for Plymouth etc. However some engines that have been rebuilt may have altered numbers.

 

[dwb]

found the number - T336-34973 - that mean anything to you guys?

thanks

doug

[Don Coatney]

23" or 25"  head?

[dwb]

23"

[Plymouthy Adams]

suggest this site   you may have to do a stroke check through the special plug on #6 cylinder to determine 218/230

http://www.t137.com/registry/help/otherengines/tengines.html

 

Edited August 10, 2017 by Plymouthy Adams

[dwb]

the 218/230 same motor with different stroke then ? where should I look for plug to check stroke ?

thanks

 

[Plymouthy Adams]

yes...stroke is difference in the 23 inch 218/230 look on the head, number 6 cylinder.....removable plug...a long rod will allow you to gage the travel... 218 is 4 3/8 stroke....230 is 4 5/8 stroke......rods if disassembled will be 7 15/16 for 218  and 7 13/16 for 230

[dwb]

thanks - will wait till we get into it to measure but looks like I can order most parts knowing its one of the 2 -

[Plymouthy Adams]

if  you don't need a rod or a crank..you're golden and can throw darts in the dark,...

[dwb]

pretty much what I'm doing - thanks

 

[johnsartain]

Here is a site with engine numbers, http://www.t137.com/registry/help/otherengines/tengines.html The site says it and be either a 218 or 230 c.i. engine with a 23 inch head from a 1954-56 C-1-C6 or C-3-C6

 

[Don Coatney]

[dwb]

thanks - we are dropping the bottom end so can measure then  -

 

[Don Coatney]

I do suggest you make an attempt to start the engine before you disassemble unless the engine is locked up. You may find it runs well.

[dwb]

it does turn so I'll tell the guys working on it - so far finding more of the parts then I thought - carb is the only real hang up - need the pump jet so back to see what Mike has

thanks

doug.

[greg g]

Do a dry and then a wet compression test.  No sense pulling down an engine that doesn't need to be opened.  Typical problems from sitting are stuck open valves.  Compression test will show if any are stuck open.

[Don Coatney]

[dwb]

we are leaving the block alone for now - managed to get plugs out so new head gasket and give it a try

how about parts like the thermo housing - called local used places and they just laughed - NAPA no help - anyone online that has those kind of pieces for sale??

 

thanks again - we are a lamp making company so none of us have much experience in this restoration stuff

[greg g]

Vintage Power Wagons is another good parts source.  Next time the Napa guys laugh at you speak to the manager about getting some one at the counter who knows  how to use their old paper parts books.  These engines were still being built for trucks and stationary power plants through the late 60's. Also for airport ground support like Clark tugs, Aux Power Units, baggage conveyors etc.  Lots of them still out there.  Also Massey Harris harvest ing equipment so check out ag. parts suppliers as well.

[dwb]

Vintage Power Wagons is amazing - thanks so much for the4 help

thanks

doug

[belvedere]

Yes, VPW has a lot of parts.  Also you can check with Chris at: http://www.oldmoparts.com/

As far as carb kits & parts, I've had good luck with: https://www.daytonaparts.com/