gramps1951 Posted April 22, 2017 Report Posted April 22, 2017 Well today I got my rusty hope disc brake kit all done but the caliper bracket sits between the steering arm and the spindle so both steering arms are inboard about 3/8 even with my tie rods all the way in it looks like they need to go in a little more has anyone else had this problem? If so what did you do looks like I need to shorten the drag link and retap don't want to do that. I am sure I am missing something or I would have heard you guys talking about it. Thanks Neil Quote
Don Coatney Posted April 22, 2017 Report Posted April 22, 2017 My first stop after I installed my disc conversion was the alignment shop. I carried with me the alignment specifications from my service manual. That was over 40,000 miles ago and no problems. Quote
gramps1951 Posted April 22, 2017 Author Report Posted April 22, 2017 I just got new tires today I will bring it to an alignment shop but it's not even close right now and i don't want to smoke my new tires still need to bring in the tie rods a little more. Quote
Merle Coggins Posted April 22, 2017 Report Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) I also noticed I would have to accommodate for the thickness of the brake plates. I was replacing my tie rod ends anyway, so I trimmed off about 1/2 inch from each end before screwing in the new ones. Edited April 22, 2017 by Merle Coggins 1 Quote
gramps1951 Posted April 22, 2017 Author Report Posted April 22, 2017 well i guess I was not alone but I don't see how cutting the tie rod would help mine are bottomed out so cutting the tie rod would not make it go in any further. Quote
Merle Coggins Posted April 23, 2017 Report Posted April 23, 2017 Then trim a little off he ends of the tie rod ends. Mine were bottomed out against the ends of the rod before I could get it short enough. I don't remember the inner threads being an issue, even after shortening it a bit. Quote
NiftyFifty Posted April 23, 2017 Report Posted April 23, 2017 I cut the tube on mine..it was much easier then trying to cut the actual tie rod end...I think it's a must after the install 1 Quote
gramps1951 Posted April 23, 2017 Author Report Posted April 23, 2017 thanks for all the input it would have been nice if they talked about it in the directions. So that is what I will do tomorrow and hopefully I will be driveing my truck tomorrow it's been awhile and can't wait to see how my new brakes feel. Looks like I will not have a need for any of my old front brake parts if anyone has use for them they can have them for free just pay shipping shoes are thin and one wheel cylinder was leaking but the other parts looked good. just let me know. Neil Quote
gramps1951 Posted April 23, 2017 Author Report Posted April 23, 2017 (edited) When you cut the tube did you do both ends or just one? Edited April 23, 2017 by gramps1951 Quote
NiftyFifty Posted April 23, 2017 Report Posted April 23, 2017 I just cut the right handed thread side so I could clean the threads up with a tap Quote
pflaming Posted April 23, 2017 Report Posted April 23, 2017 I don't recall any of the problems stated. I took two new straight 2 / 6"S, squared them with the rear tires an d perfectly parallel to the frame, then I adjusted the front tires to these per specifications. Truck tracks like a train, no wear as yet on the front tires. Maybe I just got lucky. I did have to turn the tie rod ends in to shorten their length, as I best recall. Quote
NiftyFifty Posted April 23, 2017 Report Posted April 23, 2017 These trucks want 1/8" toe in? I'm not sure I would try the straight edge lumber route, but if it worked then that's good...I just haven't found a piece of dead straight lumber in years..and from experience with my rack power steering set up...getting more then an 1/8" means a new set of tires in a very short amount of time. Must have gotten lucky Pflam...maybe someone had already shortened yours for some reason, or your tie Rod end screw in further then some. I bottomed mine out and couldn't get it to work on the original set-up....I still run factory tie rods now, but I built adapters to make them mount to my Omni rack and pinion Quote
pflaming Posted April 23, 2017 Report Posted April 23, 2017 4Mula, wood from the Ore-Wash forests are laced with Viagra, thus they grow straight up. Therefore the 2X6's are straight as arrows!! 1 Quote
gramps1951 Posted April 23, 2017 Author Report Posted April 23, 2017 steve c you can have my old brake parts just call me I left you my phone number. Neil Quote
Young Ed Posted April 23, 2017 Report Posted April 23, 2017 5 hours ago, 4mula-dlx said: These trucks want 1/8" toe in? I'm not sure I would try the straight edge lumber route, but if it worked then that's good...I just haven't found a piece of dead straight lumber in years..and from experience with my rack power steering set up...getting more then an 1/8" means a new set of tires in a very short amount of time. Must have gotten lucky Pflam...maybe someone had already shortened yours for some reason, or your tie Rod end screw in further then some. I bottomed mine out and couldn't get it to work on the original set-up....I still run factory tie rods now, but I built adapters to make them mount to my Omni rack and pinion he's probably got enough of a bend in the middle to make it shorter Quote
gramps1951 Posted April 25, 2017 Author Report Posted April 25, 2017 I cut 1/2 inch off tie rod and tube and she lined up nice. the bummer was even with my new proportioning valve my rear brakes lock up way before my front disc brakes. so now I ether adjust my rear off a little or install a manuel rear adjustable pressure valve. anyone else have this problem if so what worked for you thanks. Neil PS Steve it was nice to meet you and your wife hope you can use the brake parts and good luck with your truck. Quote
NiftyFifty Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 Did you use the Cherokee porportioning valve? Mine works great...but I am running a jeep diff in the rear too Quote
gramps1951 Posted April 25, 2017 Author Report Posted April 25, 2017 I have a ford 9inch rearend it has large brake shoes the proportioning valve is gm disc front shoe rear. Quote
NiftyFifty Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 Ah....definitely go with an adjustable valve then..too much mix and matching and you'll never be happy Quote
The Oil Soup Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 Are you sure the proportioning valve is installed correctly? Quote
gramps1951 Posted April 25, 2017 Author Report Posted April 25, 2017 Yes went with the diagram pretty straight forward . Quote
NiftyFifty Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 You've got a mis match of parts, and that prop valve was only designed for specific brakes , I got lucky because I basically used the exact brakes that the Cherokee had. Little more plumbing and $80 should have you a new valve Quote
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