1just4don Posted July 6, 2007 Report Posted July 6, 2007 here is my dilema,,,I took apart the motor,some,but dont know how much,20 years ago and layed it in the trunk. Put it inside a garage of mine and in those years I and the guy living there has just about filled the space from the trunk to the doors with 'junk' I have to clean this all out to even see what I am up against. To make matters worse this excellent step-son of mine parked his dog kennel right smack on the gravel driveway in front of garage(read as can barely open the hinged swinging doors). NOW I want to take the motor to the machine shop to sleeve, fix,,,IF they can,,, but the daunting task of 'carrying' this engine in as many pieces as it is,,,across 50' of grass and gravel,,,closest I can get to it!! I can imagine the crank and pistons are still in the block, pan and head OFF. Cam and valves etc are still there for sure. How much does this weigh aprox.??? How many huge horses(translated,,,helpers) will it take to carry said engine 50 ' without breaking a gut. (WE are strong around here,,,but maybe thats only the smell we give off)) d;~) And lifting high enough for a 3/4 ton pickup??? Can two hefty dudes getter done or is 4 required?? Reading here makes me wanna drive Grandpas old,brand new to him 50 Dodge again!!(I have never 'driven' it ever,,,bought it as non-running from my cousin!!Thought,,,oh I can EASY fix THAT!!! Well its do or die,,,NOW!!! Quote
Don Coatney Posted July 6, 2007 Report Posted July 6, 2007 There is a reason the wheel was invented. Find a two wheeled cart or borrow the neighbor kids wagon and roll it across the lawn. Better than talking with a high pitched voice the rest of your life. Quote
55 Fargo Posted July 6, 2007 Report Posted July 6, 2007 How about making some skids, with a platform or something to lay the engine on, do you have a small tractor or quad, that you could drag this thing to where you ned to go with it,or pull with a winch of some sort. Or how about a small utility trailer, load it on and get a helper and drag it out to where you need to take it. as far as the weight minus the head and oil pan, around the 550 to 600 pound range, I believe a complete engine is in the 700 pound range. Quote
PatS.... Posted July 6, 2007 Report Posted July 6, 2007 Or get the step-son to do it for you for letting him have his doghouse blocking the way Quote
norrism1 Posted July 7, 2007 Report Posted July 7, 2007 My question is after you get the motor rebuilt, how are you going to get the car out without removing the kennel anyways. I say move the kennel now if you can since it will need to be done later. Or are you going to drive it in the garage only? Quote
1just4don Posted July 7, 2007 Author Report Posted July 7, 2007 Norris, I thought of that too, figured I would take one step at a time. "IF" the motor is toast,then I am back at square one anyway. Havent found a good local running motor in 20 years like I 'thought' I could But maybe I was looking,,,but NOT hard enough!! Guess I have to stumble over it to see some days!! others, Yep I was thinking of doing 'something' like that IF it was too heavy for to carry.. Maybe I can use an old metal saucer snow sled(like Clark Griswald used),,, and attach a chain to 'something' then slide it over the grass,,,worst part of that is it is lower to lift back up. Maybe if all else fails,,,I will load my skidloader and haul those miles(I HATE to haul skid thru town,,,no place to chain back down(stupid manufactures). I have to rebuild the sidewalk there anyway. It is VERY hard on grass tho,tears it up something fierce. I "WANT" to pour a new sidewalk right over the old and haul in a bit of dirt to fill along the edges as required and THEN I dont need the skid loader there. Dont know whether the city will 'let' me do that!! Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted July 7, 2007 Report Posted July 7, 2007 I would bet my neighbor a cold beer that he could not carry and load all that in one hours time..before you know it's is ready to go and hey..what's the cost of one cold beer? Quote
Jim Saraceno Posted July 8, 2007 Report Posted July 8, 2007 The other option is to tear down the engine where it is and carry it out piece by piece. I can pick up the block by myself and the crank by myself but no way can I do it with them together. If your taking it across the grass in one piece, get a cart with the largest wheels you can find. Quote
james curl Posted July 8, 2007 Report Posted July 8, 2007 I use one of the 1000 pound cap. wagons that places like home depot sell. It is a garden or nursery wagon. I have a holder that I made from 2"x10" boards for the sides that sit against the oil pan under the engine minus the fuel pump unless you cut a relief notch into the side with the fuel pump. I used 3/4"plywood for the ends with half circles cut in them to match the front and rear of the pan. I screwed 2"x4" boards across the bottom that are the same length as the width of the wagon. Then lowered the engine into the fixture which was already in the wagon. I have to move the wagon about 50" to the driveway past my junk Triumph TR 7 Conv. so I could install it in my car which was sitting in the drive way minus its front clip. Removed the old engine and lowered it into the fixture after installing the new engine. The old engine sits in the garage in the fixture solid as a rock. I have moved eight engines with this wagon. I even use 2"x12"x8' boards as ramps to come along the wagon into the pick up bed for transport. Have move four sbc and four Toyota 20R engines by this method. I do every thing the hard way, by my self, never ask for help but will help anybody wirh their project. Quote
Don Coatney Posted July 9, 2007 Report Posted July 9, 2007 James; Go to the next level and convert your storage stand into a live test stand. I ran my engine about 10 hours on this stand prior to installing it in my car. This allowed me to work out all the bugs when everything was easy to get to. Quote
55 Fargo Posted July 9, 2007 Report Posted July 9, 2007 Sounds like these stands are good and sturdy, always leary of the discount tool store engine stands.Fred Quote
knuckleharley Posted July 10, 2007 Report Posted July 10, 2007 >>Yep I was thinking of doing 'something' like that IF it was too heavy for to carry.. Maybe I can use an old metal saucer snow sled(like Clark Griswald used),,, and attach a chain to 'something' then slide it over the grass,,,<< Harbor Frieght,Northern Tools,and others sell a wagon with pneumatic tires that holds 1200 lbs,has sides that fold down,and a "tiller" arm that you can pull and steer it with. Useful for all sorts of things. I bought mine at the local True Value hardware store for $99.99,and use it to haul motors and transmissions around with. I prefer to strip cars out in the yard,and the pneumatic tires make it easy to roll around the yard. It's also easier to roll around inside my shop than a cherry picker is. Quote
toddbracik Posted July 10, 2007 Report Posted July 10, 2007 But you will probably have to set it down a few times along the way. That is how I put mine in the ford ranger I owned at the time but we didn't have to walk 50'...count of three and heave ho. Quote
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