Don Jordan Posted December 23, 2015 Report Posted December 23, 2015 I've been looking around for brakes. It seems all I can find is a la carte - does anyone sell kits with new springs, cylinders, shoes? Do these (stock P15) shoes have rivets? My 36 Chevy I could tell it was time for new shoes when the rivets began to appear. My next door neighbor was looking and said the shoes on my Plymouth should be replaced. They look good to me but I'm no pro. I guess it wouldn't hurt to stock up for when the day comes. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted December 23, 2015 Report Posted December 23, 2015 one of the more popular one stop shopping would be Kanter..they may be others...you may wish to visit their site...I have no clue what their prices are but know they offer kits of all kinds... Quote
fedoragent Posted December 23, 2015 Report Posted December 23, 2015 Don, I have all my brake vendors in the LA area and what I did to my car with the parts, shoes, the whole nine yards if you'd like for me to show you during that drive on the 31st. Either that or I can just call you. Let me know. FG. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted December 23, 2015 Report Posted December 23, 2015 I think fedoragent has the better solution to your problem unless running from shop to shop in your local area is not in your game plan... Quote
fedoragent Posted December 23, 2015 Report Posted December 23, 2015 I think fedoragent has the better solution to your problem unless running from shop to shop in your local area is not in your game plan... Mr. Adams, Unfortunately I was one of those poor souls that learned this stuff by going from shop to shop, having conversations with folks and such. Blew my mind how long it took to gather up the list of vendors. And 3 1/2 years after the fact, I finally found the dual MC that I was looking for that bolts right into the P15. Yeah, Don, I'll help you. Just like in the spirit of Dezeldoc helping me four or five years ago. Gosh, wish we could find that guy. FG. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted December 23, 2015 Report Posted December 23, 2015 For sure the local interworking of the old car supporting shops can be hard to numerate and well, many go under or quit their dedicated service due sometimes to the very parts they need no longer available and not able to assist the next time around. This very scenario is often the success behind places like Kanter and others that can and do provide one stop shopping. Keeping it local is what I try to do also. Hopefully Don will call on you for guidance. Quote
Don Jordan Posted December 24, 2015 Author Report Posted December 24, 2015 Jon - thank you for the offer. If you get all the names together I will get it from you on the 31st. Meanwhile I'll check out Kanter. thanks for the lead - I'm on it. d- Quote
fedoragent Posted December 24, 2015 Report Posted December 24, 2015 BTW, also Jeff at Moose Motors takes care of my pads. I send them to him, he puts the asbestos pads on them and then they're back on the car. However, the word asbestos in California as you know is verboten. Quote
Bingster Posted December 24, 2015 Report Posted December 24, 2015 Does this fellow arc the pads to the drum? 1 Quote
Don Coatney Posted December 24, 2015 Report Posted December 24, 2015 Does this fellow arc the pads to the drum? I would think he may do this if you send the drums to him. Quote
55 Fargo Posted December 24, 2015 Report Posted December 24, 2015 Guys listen for "what it's worth", I have installed a few sets of these brakes on a couple of Old Mopars, so no expert. I of course would have the drums machined as little as possible, to surface them nicely. With all new steel lines, wheel cyls, MC hoses etc. I would install the shoes as per Dodgeb4ya, and allowed the shoes to wear into the drum arc. The brakes have been great, not instantly but after some miles. Brake pedal was always good and high, not spongy. The stock brakes in my old 47 Chrysler coupe, were great, could put a passenger into the front window and dash, very easily. No they are not modern disc, or self energizing self adjusting bendix type drums, but can be very good if in good adjustment and condition. They have to be worn in, or as mentioned, machine arced to contact.... 2 Quote
Don Coatney Posted December 24, 2015 Report Posted December 24, 2015 I should add the best and correct way to adjust the shoes to the drums is by use of the Ammco tool. There is a forum member who loans this tool with a deposit. A forum search will produce a lot of results on this issue. Quote
dodgeguy Posted December 25, 2015 Report Posted December 25, 2015 So what is the mc application you found that bolts upo? Quote
fedoragent Posted December 25, 2015 Report Posted December 25, 2015 Does this fellow arc the pads to the drum? Yeppers Bingster and Don are both correct. He does it and only if you send the drums to him. Good guy Jeff @ Moose Motors in Penngrove, CA. Call him on Monday. Quote
fedoragent Posted December 25, 2015 Report Posted December 25, 2015 I should add the best and correct way to adjust the shoes to the drums is by use of the Ammco tool. There is a forum member who loans this tool with a deposit. A forum search will produce a lot of results on this issue. Cripes I wish I had one of those. FG. Quote
fedoragent Posted December 25, 2015 Report Posted December 25, 2015 So what is the mc application you found that bolts upo? Actually I found it in an older thread. There is a paper out there on the procedure as well. http://www.butchscoolstuff.com/42-53-plymouth-41-53-dodge-frame-mounted-brake-pedal-kit-2475bc/ I am buying it after the Christmas season (ran out of bread...) and then having it put in. FG. Quote
deathbound Posted December 25, 2015 Report Posted December 25, 2015 (edited) The link for the conversion says "automatic trans only", they also have 1 for '35-'38 Ply/Dodge, which also says for auto trans only. Wondering if these are for cars with modern engine/auto trans or with auto trans conversion. If you need the Ammco 1750 brake tool, let me know, I have one and right now it's changing hands with a couple local guys, not sure if being used at the moment though. Edited December 25, 2015 by deathbound Quote
fedoragent Posted December 26, 2015 Report Posted December 26, 2015 The link for the conversion says "automatic trans only", they also have 1 for '35-'38 Ply/Dodge, which also says for auto trans only. Wondering if these are for cars with modern engine/auto trans or with auto trans conversion. If you need the Ammco 1750 brake tool, let me know, I have one and right now it's changing hands with a couple local guys, not sure if being used at the moment though. You know, I thought the same thing too. I passed this by two brake guys that they both said ... in non polite terms that the 'automatic' verbiage is malarchy. I'd love to see what some of the other P15 folks think too. I'm glad you brought it up because it concerned me. I'm not sure who is right about this or wrong. I could, however call the vendor tomorrow and ask if that was a typo of some sort. FG. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted December 26, 2015 Report Posted December 26, 2015 this is an aftermarket brake bracket that most likely does not have provision for the clutch pedal to mount on the pivot pin. Quote
plywoody47 Posted April 17, 2016 Report Posted April 17, 2016 I have this bracket and MC set in the garage right now. It is not Malarchy. No provision what so ever for clutch pivot point. Looking into what might need to be fabbed to make the clutch L/o work. If any one has experience or good ideas, let me know. Quote
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