1FSTRYD Posted December 31, 2013 Report Posted December 31, 2013 Hi all. I am new here as I acquired a new project that I have always loved. I came across a 54 coronet suburban 2dr. I actually got the car for free. Guy wanted it hauled off. Floor and rockers were completely rotted out on this car and drivetrain is gone. Anyways I am trying to find weatherstrips for this car before I really move forward on it. That will determine what I do with the sliding quarter windows. Any help would be very appreciated. Thanks again Brian Quote
ChrisRice Posted December 31, 2013 Report Posted December 31, 2013 Welcome from another suburban owner. Sounds like you have your work cut out for you. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted December 31, 2013 Report Posted December 31, 2013 Hi Welcome Sounds like a unique project alright. Have you called or looked at a Steele Rubber catalog? They tend to have a large selection of good quality rubber pieces. Maybe someone will join in who has had more specific suburban experience. Some things are pretty tough to find.........but sometimes other things can be substituted and work perfectly. (Not exactly a definitive answer, you see). Link to Steele website: http://www.steelerubber.com/ Good luck. Quote
pflaming Posted December 31, 2013 Report Posted December 31, 2013 Welcome from a 54 Plymouth wagon owner. I like the Dodge, nice find. I have a thread going on my build. I too will have to research the weather stripping. For my truck I got my seals (weather stripping) from Steele and I am pleased with it, so will likely go there first. Enjoy the hobby. Does your suburban have a V8 or L6? Quote
1FSTRYD Posted December 31, 2013 Author Report Posted December 31, 2013 I have looked on steele website but not much luck. I was going to call them first of the year and see if they might have something to work. Pflaming I have been reading your thread the past couple nights. Lots of work for sure. Just wish I had more time on my hands. Other then work the wife and kids swallow up all my extra time. Mine came with a v8 and overdrive. I have a fuel injected twin turbo 360 with a newer overdrive that I have sitting in the garage just begging to be put in something. Some day hope to pair these two together. Quote
suntennis Posted December 31, 2013 Report Posted December 31, 2013 For the 52 Suburban I could not find NOS or aftermarket rubber for the sliding rear windows. A good auto glass shop should be able to put together some rubber that will do the job for you. A auto glass shop in the Phoenix area with the name Bell Auto Glass has done a few Suburbans and they look like the original. If you need the rubber for the rear window, there is a universal type molding that will do the job that is similar to the original. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted December 31, 2013 Report Posted December 31, 2013 Do you have yet a Parts Manual for your suburban? Often those show pictures and maybe even give dimensions of certain items. I've occasionally been surprised at info found.......then again, sometimes they give you very little to work with. If you can find the thing you need on an original, nice vehicle, be sure to study it, take pictures and measurements if possible. Write it all down to save for future reference. (Wish I had written down more stuff I've bought for or done to my car.) (I had a 54 Plymouth two door wagon back in the 1970s which was still in pretty good condition and did not need things replaced, so unfortunately no experience with parts there.) It was left sitting by the next owner for 25 years or so, and consequently went downhill greatly. He finally dumped it off........but I think some car person ultimately bought it and may be currently restoring it. Be interesting to see if it ever turns up again. What the last buyer got.............. Quote
1FSTRYD Posted December 31, 2013 Author Report Posted December 31, 2013 I haven't looked at part numbers. I work for a chrysler dealer but don't have the old books. Just called across town to borrow a book from another dealer. Since I will be home bored tomorrow I may just scan it into my computer so I have it. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted December 31, 2013 Report Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) I had my side glass seal special extruded by a company in NC...die is not available today..so sorry...you may have to provide a sample and have the same thing done Edited December 31, 2013 by Plymouthy Adams Quote
1FSTRYD Posted January 1, 2014 Author Report Posted January 1, 2014 I wish this was an option as I don't have any to match. All the windows in this car were laying in the back except the back window and the windshield. I have to get a sliding window but I found a company who offers all the windows for this car. They just don't have the xstrips. So frustrating. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted January 1, 2014 Report Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) often folks just weld and finish this sliding rear glass and fit flat single fixed pane in its place...but..you still have to find a u-channel with lip....FYI..the one from Restoration Specialties will not do the job... Edited January 1, 2014 by Plymouthy Adams Quote
chopt50wgn Posted January 1, 2014 Report Posted January 1, 2014 I had the same problem and decided to just urethane all the glass in my suburban. Except for the side window glass, everything is "glued" in the urethane they use to seal glass. My buddy who has a auto glass shop in my town even glued the rear glass in which does have a bow in it. He figured out a way to do this and it looks like a factory install. Most of all none of these window will ever leak due to a faulty rubber seal. Quote
1FSTRYD Posted January 1, 2014 Author Report Posted January 1, 2014 Wow I like that look of the two solid windows. I thought about cutting out the c-pillar and making one giant window but now that I have seen this I may just go this route. Thanks Quote
pflaming Posted January 1, 2014 Report Posted January 1, 2014 "Wow I like that look of the two solid windows. I thought about cutting out the c-pillar and making one giant window . . . " I agree on the two solid windows. I've also thought about cutting out that pillar but it is a very important structural piece, so I may paint mine the same color as the windows and 'hide' it that way. I really like the clean look of this suburban. Very good taste in every detail. Question: What did you do inside? Got some pictures? Quote
chopt50wgn Posted January 2, 2014 Report Posted January 2, 2014 pflaming...........the inside is still a WIP.............I did build a console where I mounted the stereo and tach. The dash is also a custom piece I made but the center section of the dash is stock. plus I had the dash parts powdercoated in a flat silver. I am taking it to have carpet done this coming spring. And my wife and I are covering all the inner panels ourselves as she is a wiz at sewing. Quote
Dave72dt Posted January 2, 2014 Report Posted January 2, 2014 Are the corners of the rear window radiuses similar to the side windows. Hard to tell in the pictures. Bottom corners look like they may be but can't tell for sure about the uppers. Quote
1FSTRYD Posted January 3, 2014 Author Report Posted January 3, 2014 The lowers are the same as the rear windows but the uppers are much tighter of a curve. It took me forever trying to figure out how all these windows went as I haven't seen one of these cars in years. I was just going off of pictures from the internet. The driver side weatherstrip on the front quarter window is in tact so I might be able to match it but the sliding ones there is no rubber left just the track chopt50wgn I like the looks of your dash turn out real clean Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted January 3, 2014 Report Posted January 3, 2014 I bet that side stainless trim on the Dodge wagon is impossible to find nowadays......I'd treat it with care. Quote
chopt50wgn Posted January 3, 2014 Report Posted January 3, 2014 When I had my glass done, I made templates for all the glass in 1/4" luan plywood. Since the top is chopped and the glass is not rectangular anymore it was easier to get a better fit.Then my buddy who has this glass shop came down and took them back to his shop and cut the glass. Then he came back to fit and make adjustments as needed. Quote
suntennis Posted January 3, 2014 Report Posted January 3, 2014 On rubber in the area of sliding window, the only rubber is that sealing the fixed window. Attached to the edge of the fixed window, is a weather strip to seal between the fixed and sliding window. Quote
1FSTRYD Posted January 3, 2014 Author Report Posted January 3, 2014 So they don't use a seal where the window slides? Does it just ride on that thin metal u-shaped channel? If so I can probably make something for the fixed window. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted January 3, 2014 Report Posted January 3, 2014 yes and the very butt of the fixed glass seal is special also...a rounded nose finish...these side glass seals are quite different from every generic seal I have seen and I looked at quite a number of applications and suppliers... Quote
pflaming Posted January 3, 2014 Report Posted January 3, 2014 I've been following this. I think I will go to one piece which solves a water / rust problem. But it does not solve a ventilation loss. Question, is it possible to turn the exhaust pipe(s) to the side so the fumes will not suck up into the car from the back, or is the vacuum too strong. OR, does a air spoiler such as is on the S 10's solve that problem? That exhaust problem solved then it would be OK to open the top gate a little for ventilation. Quote
Don Coatney Posted January 3, 2014 Report Posted January 3, 2014 SPOILER? Eastwood said it best Big spoiler click here-----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJLbR9TEMD8 Quote
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