Joe Flanagan Posted March 23, 2013 Report Posted March 23, 2013 I'm re-assembling my rear brakes and have come across two flat washers whose location I'm not sure of. They look like they'd go with the eccentric major adjustment bolts, since they're the right diameter. If that's so, I'm missing two of them. But I don't know where they go and have been unable to find a blow-up drawing of the rear brakes. Does anyone know where they're supposed to go? Maybe they somehow got mixed in with my brake parts but since they were in labeled zip-lock bags, I kind of doubt it. Quote
Young Ed Posted March 23, 2013 Report Posted March 23, 2013 Do you have a washer under each axle nut? Quote
Joe Flanagan Posted March 23, 2013 Author Report Posted March 23, 2013 Do you mean the big castle nut that goes over the threaded end of the axle? Quote
Young Ed Posted March 23, 2013 Report Posted March 23, 2013 Do you mean the big castle nut that goes over the threaded end of the axle? Yup there should be a washer under it. Quote
Joe Flanagan Posted March 23, 2013 Author Report Posted March 23, 2013 Ed, these are too small to go over the axle, so they don't go there. You did make me aware that I'm missing the axle washers, so thanks. The ones I'm not sure about have one beveled edge on their inside diameter. They fit the anchor bolts perfectly but I'm not sure they go there. Quote
Alshere59 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Posted March 23, 2013 This is from my 1950 passenger car parts list. Its a reprint and not real good quality but hopefully it helps. Al Quote
Joe Flanagan Posted March 23, 2013 Author Report Posted March 23, 2013 Thanks very much, Al. It looks like they are part 5-19-13, spacer. Right now I just have lock washers on the back side of the eccentric bolts. So that's probably where they go and it looks like I'm missing two. My el cheapo manual doesn't have very many nice exploded diagrams like this. Quote
Alshere59 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Posted March 23, 2013 Joe this version has an exploded diagram for everything on our 50 Plymouth cars. I paid about 30 bucks. As far as you have yours apart may be a good investment. Send me a pm if you need any others. Quote
DJ194950 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Posted March 23, 2013 Joe this version has an exploded diagram for everything on our 50 Plymouth cars. I paid about 30 bucks. As far as you have yours apart may be a good investment. Send me a pm if you need any others. I also bought the parts manuel Al pictured, it's a big help often as there is at least twice or more diagrams in all catagories. The other plus- it covers all Mopar passenger cars for 50, so if you're needing to know if other brands will interchange you're set, as far as 50's go. Best to ya, Doug Quote
Joe Flanagan Posted March 23, 2013 Author Report Posted March 23, 2013 After some messing around, I discovered that those washers are actually spacers that go between the brake shoe and the backing plate. I had assembled the brake without the spacers and it made the shoe cockeyed, which resulted in poor contact with the drum. Only the outer edges of the shoes were making contact. I also had the felt washer with its retainer in the wrong place, which added to the problem. Now everything is much better. Thanks for the help. Quote
DJ194950 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Posted March 23, 2013 After some messing around, I discovered that those washers are actually spacers that go between the brake shoe and the backing plate. I had assembled the brake without the spacers and it made the shoe cockeyed, which resulted in poor contact with the drum. Only the outer edges of the shoes were making contact. I also had the felt washer with its retainer in the wrong place, which added to the problem. Now everything is much better. Thanks for the help. Joe, If you have not completely installed all pieces yet, try tightening the adustment nuts and make sure your brake shoes can still be moved. When installing new shoes on my 50 4 dr. the PO had parts installed all wrong including one of those spacers was missing. After looking at the same blow up parts that Al posted, things were assembled as per pic. But one shoe would not move when nuts on the adjuster were tightned, another shoe still set cockeyed. Changes in spacers corrected both problems. Do you have or borrowed a factory type shoe setting tool? It took a lot of messing arround to get my shoes centered, flat to the tool(drum) even with the tool! Did you put some light oil on the Felts? It helps the lower shoe pivot points clean and moving smoothly. Getting closer-closer! Best to ya, Doug Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted March 23, 2013 Report Posted March 23, 2013 Some pics... Spacers on the rear backing plate only... Bob Quote
Joe Flanagan Posted March 23, 2013 Author Report Posted March 23, 2013 Haven't tightened the adjustment nuts behind the eccentric bolts yet. Thanks for the tip about oil on the felts. I made my own adjustment tool: 2 Quote
DJ194950 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Posted March 24, 2013 Haven't tightened the adjustment nuts behind the eccentric bolts yet. Thanks for the tip about oil on the felts. I made my own adjustment tool: I liked it! Made copy of pics for my file in case the borrowed adjustment tool becomes harder to borrow! Thanks, Doug Quote
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