wkrpinnick Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 I just bought a 47 dodge .the radiator was missing. Dose anyone know if it sits inside of the support or on the front? Has anyone used one from champion? and if so how does it fit/work? thanks Coup (47-49) CC4749 Champion All Aluminum Radiator Quote
Andydodge Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 As far as I know all the Dodge/plymouth radiators up to & including 1948 bolt onto the engine side of the radiator support at either side, there should be 4-5 threads into which the radiator sides line up........andyd Quote
aero3113 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 I used one from champion and it works great. I had to drill 2 new holes for it to work but was a simple install. Quote
OldDad67 Posted August 24, 2012 Report Posted August 24, 2012 I used one from champion and it works great. I had to drill 2 new holes for it to work but was a simple install. Was your Champion radiator a 3 core or a 2 core? I see 2 cores advertised that will cool 600hp more than enough for me. Thanks Quote
james49ply Posted August 24, 2012 Report Posted August 24, 2012 I just installed one on my 48. I had to have the upper redesigned as it was 90 degrees down intead of the 45 degrees required, $20.00 at a local shop that can weld aluminium. cools much better than the leaky honeycomb that was the origional. Quote
claybill Posted August 24, 2012 Report Posted August 24, 2012 aero 3113.....did you get the 2 or 3 core.? part number? i see the nice surround mounting bracket.....was that included too.? bill Quote
wkrpinnick Posted August 25, 2012 Author Report Posted August 25, 2012 the cc479 is the part # for a 3 row on this site http://www.championradiators.com/page/473035584 Quote
aero3113 Posted August 27, 2012 Report Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) I bought the 2 row and it cools just fine, the radiator came with the bracket welded on. I bought it a while ago, I think this was it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/49-50-51-52-Chrysler-Dodge-Desoto-Car-Aluminum-2-ROW-Champion-Radiator-EC52PLY-/170900222725?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1950|Make%3APlymouth&hash=item27ca727305&vxp=mtr Edited August 27, 2012 by aero3113 Quote
wkrpinnick Posted August 27, 2012 Author Report Posted August 27, 2012 areo what year is your ply? i know that the champion site has the size . is this what yours measures? or can you give measurements? just the tank ...not really worried about the mounting bracket.. I called them they were no help just could tell me whatever is on web site..,if it will indeed fit inside the support ,maybe i can get them to weld the brackets on the back not the front ? Not really wanting to cut fire wall although its not really that big of deal..(my dad does on his model A s to make gm 350 fit) so yes i know it can be done .. Quote
aero3113 Posted August 28, 2012 Report Posted August 28, 2012 It's a 1950, yes they are the same measurements. Quote
46Ply Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 I just installed one on my 48. I had to have the upper redesigned as it was 90 degrees down intead of the 45 degrees required, $20.00 at a local shop that can weld aluminium. cools much better than the leaky honeycomb that was the origional. I'm getting ready to do the same job on my 47 P15 Coupe. According to the Champion website they will make modifications to the neck for $70. Seems a little pricey to me? I haven't called them to see if local modifications would void the warranty. Quote
1941Rick Posted July 8, 2015 Report Posted July 8, 2015 Just cut the elbow off with a hacksaw then use a hose with the correct bend.....nothing to serious Quote
46Ply Posted July 8, 2015 Report Posted July 8, 2015 Thanks Don, Actually I did call Champion and they have recognized the change needed for the P15 and have plans to implement the proper 45 degree outlet. Quote
46Ply Posted July 8, 2015 Report Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) One other question. Is my fan mounted correctly? And, before I bite the bullet on the new radiator, I'm wondering if there are any shops left that still clean radiators, OR, is there a way for me to do this at home. ie: drain radiator and soak it with vinegar or Muratic acid mix, etc. My radiator isn't leaking and I don't see any signs of discoloration on it that indicates that it has in the past. Edited July 8, 2015 by 46Ply Quote
46Ply Posted July 8, 2015 Report Posted July 8, 2015 Fan, yes. record photos (3).JPG Power steering? Quote
Don Coatney Posted July 8, 2015 Report Posted July 8, 2015 Fan?? Is there supposed to be a fan there?? Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted July 8, 2015 Report Posted July 8, 2015 you got fans....you got box fans but Don that small box is not going to do you any good.. Quote
46Ply Posted July 8, 2015 Report Posted July 8, 2015 Hey boys, I'm already confused enough! What about cleaning my radiator? I remember the days when you could take it in, take off the tanks, boil her out, rod it out, put it back together, put a new black paint job on it and you're good to go. But, this is 40 years later... the radiator is 40 years older... I'm 40 years older!! and if you could find a shop that would do that it would probably be 40 times more expensive. But having said all that, I think it still might be worth a shot to try and clean it at home or find a shop that will if the price isn't extreme. Then, after all that's done and they find a bunch of holes I can go ahead and buy that new radiator! Thoughts? Quote
Merle Coggins Posted July 8, 2015 Report Posted July 8, 2015 You can't rod out the tubes on a honeycomb radiator core. But most good radiator shops can dunk it in their cleaning tank and flush it out. They could then test it and repaint it for you. Quote
Don Coatney Posted July 8, 2015 Report Posted July 8, 2015 If you pay to clean you will still have a 60+ year old inefficient radiator prone to failure. New aluminum radiators increase engine cooling efficient and can be had for a very reasonable price. The choice is yours. Quote
mapman Posted July 9, 2015 Report Posted July 9, 2015 I take out the radiator then put a garden hose in it and run water through it in different positions and opposite directions until it runs clear and the mouse poop is gone. Then I reinstall and try it. If it doesn't work I pull it apart and clean it with the tanks off depending on the style radiator. If it still doesn't work I replace it. I've done a lot of radiators over the years and only replaced one. Rob Quote
46Ply Posted July 9, 2015 Report Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) Mapman, I appreciate your last comments on radiator cleaning. The Plymouth has a honeycomb construction, which would eliminate rodding it out, but I'm wondering if you ever used muriatic acid? Never thought about honeycomb radiators until now, but how can they be cleaned except for flushing out? I'd like to try this before I replace it with a new one. And, yes I know it may not be as efficient as a new one, but it would still be original to the car. I can't get to it myself since I'm in NC and my brother's working with the car in IL. So, in the meantime all I can do is investigate alternatives until I hear from him. And all we know really is that the faster you drive the hotter it gets, and starts to cool back down when you drive slower. Edited July 9, 2015 by 46Ply Quote
1941Rick Posted July 9, 2015 Report Posted July 9, 2015 If you are going to have the car judged at a high end show you will have to spend the big bucks and get the rad recored. If you want to drive it put in another rad...... You are getting a lot of advice how to clean the one in the car right now......I laugh at some of the advice.....Shade tree advice. Just look at the age of the rad....its time Quote
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