karl head Posted May 31, 2012 Report Posted May 31, 2012 Hi I am about to pull the engine in my truck with or without the tranny, I have a few questions about how to proceed. 1. do I have to pull the steering column and if so do I have to pull the wheel. 2 Is it better to pull both units as one . 3 Any special tricks or procedures I should know first. although this is not my first engine pull I like to know what to expect. thanks Karl Quote
Jim Shepard Posted May 31, 2012 Report Posted May 31, 2012 I have recently pulled and installed my motor twice. I chose to pull it out with the tranny attached because I didn't want to drain and remove the gas tank and cross member (which you otherwise have to do if you have fluid drive). If you pull off the nose and radiator its a fairly simple procedure. My sense is also that its much easier to get the flywheel, clutch and tranny back on if everything's out on the floor... Quote
Don Coatney Posted May 31, 2012 Report Posted May 31, 2012 Hi I am about to pull the engine in my truck with or without the tranny, I have a few questions about how to proceed. 1. do I have to pull the steering column and if so do I have to pull the wheel. 2 Is it better to pull both units as one . 3 Any special tricks or procedures I should know first. although this is not my first engine pull I like to know what to expect. thanks Karl As this is not your first engine pull, what did you do in the past? Did you pull the steering column and wheel, did you pull both the engine and transmission together? Nothing magic here. Use your best judgement. Quote
Dave72dt Posted May 31, 2012 Report Posted May 31, 2012 As this is not your first engine pull, what did you do in the past? Did you pull the steering column and wheel, did you pull both the engine and transmission together? Nothing magic here. Use your best judgement. I'm getting the idea he's pulled engines from vehicles other than Pilothouses. I've pulled a lot of engines in my time but no flatheads from a Pilothouse and if one way is easier than the other, I'd want to know too. Quote
karl head Posted May 31, 2012 Author Report Posted May 31, 2012 (edited) I'm getting the idea he's pulled engines from vehicles other than Pilothouses. I've pulled a lot of engines in my time but no flatheads from a Pilothouse and if one way is easier than the other, I'd want to know too. I guess I should of been clearer. I have pulled several engines and trannys before but never a flathead and not anything with the same mounting system. I will be doing all the work myself and in my drive way so every little tip would could make a big difference. I try never to reinvent the wheel if I can help it. past engines pulled 2 MGB's one with tran one without . three Triumph spitfires all with trans. 350 chevy 305 chevy one in car other in truck neither with tranny . 318 out of a 75 charger pulled tranny first. Thanks Karl. Edited May 31, 2012 by karl head Quote
Jeff Balazs Posted June 1, 2012 Report Posted June 1, 2012 Hey Karl; Reasonable sounding questions to me. I think it is old hat to some....but it is new to you and me and takes a bit of getting used to. I see you were or are a Triumph Guy I had a couple years back. 70 GT6+ and 74 Spitfire.....both with Weber motors. The GT6 was blazing fast....partially due to very tall gearing. 55mph in 1st but it ate clutch's for breakfast. Due to way the car was designed the fastest way to do a clutch job was to pull the tranny into the interior of the car. Other than that it was a lovely little car. The 2 liter 6 cylinder engines were practically bullet proof. Jeff Quote
pflaming Posted June 1, 2012 Report Posted June 1, 2012 (edited) If you have time and space to pull the doghouse, you will make your life alot easier. You almost need a skyhook to get over the grill housing, even with the radiator out. The brake and clutch pedals are an issue. Once you have hold of the engine and are free of the two back motor mounts and the front one under the fan, the I dropped the tranny end down and removed those pedals. Edit: when I pulled it the first time, I left the pedals on. It will twist out but it takes some stubborness on your part at times. I have a 6x4 in beam in my rafters so the winch is nice. I did not pull the steering wheel gear box. Edited November 19, 2017 by pflaming Quote
karl head Posted June 1, 2012 Author Report Posted June 1, 2012 (edited) If you have time and space to pull the doghouse, you will make your life alot easier. You almost need a skyhook to get over the grill housing, even with the radiator out. The brake and clutch pedals are an issue. Once you have hold of the engine and are free of the two back motor mounts and the front one under the fan, the I dropped the tranny end down and removed those pedals. Edit: when I pulled it the first time, I left the pedals on. It will twist out but it takes some stubborness on your part at times. I have a 6x4 in beam in my rafters so the winch is nice. I did not pull the steering wheel gear box. Thanks guys That's just what I needed. I have already removed both fenders and the inner's and will pull the front header so hopefully that will give me some wiggle room. I will remove the front section of the floor also since I will need to tidy it up and do some patching anyway. Thanks again Karl Edited June 1, 2012 by karl head Quote
karl head Posted June 1, 2012 Author Report Posted June 1, 2012 Hey Karl;Reasonable sounding questions to me. I think it is old hat to some....but it is new to you and me and takes a bit of getting used to. I see you were or are a Triumph Guy I had a couple years back. 70 GT6+ and 74 Spitfire.....both with Weber motors. The GT6 was blazing fast....partially due to very tall gearing. 55mph in 1st but it ate clutch's for breakfast. Due to way the car was designed the fastest way to do a clutch job was to pull the tranny into the interior of the car. Other than that it was a lovely little car. The 2 liter 6 cylinder engines were practically bullet proof. Jeff I still have two spitfires one is on the road 1979 1500 the other is a 69 mark 3 its in storage in a different province. love them both. I always wanted a gt-6 or a tr-6..lol Karl Quote
karl head Posted June 1, 2012 Author Report Posted June 1, 2012 I have recently pulled and installed my motor twice. I chose to pull it out with the tranny attached because I didn't want to drain and remove the gas tank and cross member (which you otherwise have to do if you have fluid drive). If you pull off the nose and radiator its a fairly simple procedure. My sense is also that its much easier to get the flywheel, clutch and tranny back on if everything's out on the floor... Thanks I will be taking your advice and pulling it in tandem. Although I don't have a fluid drive it looks like the clutch is a chunk of rust and dirt, and I expect it will make it easier in the long run as you said. Karl Quote
Jim Shepard Posted June 1, 2012 Report Posted June 1, 2012 I forgot to mention that I have a three speed on the column. Maybe a floor shift would have caused me to make another decision. I think Merle has a floor shift with FD. He might have a different perspective... Quote
MBF Posted June 1, 2012 Report Posted June 1, 2012 When I pulled the motors out of my parts trucks, I removed the front clip and dropped the transmission on the 4 spd truck. On the column shifted 3 speed, I undid the linkage at the transmission and pulled out as a unit. I pulled both steering columns on both trucks and put them in inventory prior to pulling the engines. I would think that if you removed the lower mounting bolts and pitman arm, and then the steering tube clamps you could slide the steering box forward so it is out of the way. (just guessing out loud) Mike Quote
48Dodger Posted June 2, 2012 Report Posted June 2, 2012 Here's the videos I did on removing the front clip. Big help in removing the engine. 48D Quote
John Mathias Posted June 2, 2012 Report Posted June 2, 2012 If you are using a "cherry picker" style engine hoist, do yourself a HUGE favor, run down to H.F. and pick up a air over hyd ram for it. I wish I would have done it years ago. pulling a SBC from the neighbors truck was super simple, sat in the engine bay, held the switch, and wiggled the engine right out with 3sp tranny attached. Never had it so easy! AND, you aren't pumping that darn thing forever to get it to move 5"! Quote
karl head Posted June 2, 2012 Author Report Posted June 2, 2012 If you are using a "cherry picker" style engine hoist, do yourself a HUGE favor, run down to H.F. and pick up a air over hyd ram for it. I wish I would have done it years ago. pulling a SBC from the neighbors truck was super simple, sat in the engine bay, held the switch, and wiggled the engine right out with 3sp tranny attached. Never had it so easy! AND, you aren't pumping that darn thing forever to get it to move 5"! As luck would have it there's no HF north of the border... and the picker is a loaner but I like the way you think, guess I will have arms like Popeye after I'm done. karl Quote
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