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What ownership documents do you have??? Generally back when these vehicles were registered and or titled (some states did not have titles till the 70's) the engnie number or the serial number were used for vehicle ID.

Vin numbers did not get standardized till the mid 60's. Typically Chrysler vehicles have a serial number plate on one of the A pillar's between the door hinges, the engine number on the pad on the block above the generator, and the body tag on the fire wall. Each with its own individual number. And with the frequency of engine swaps that occured with these vehicles, it not unusual to have an engine that did not come with the vehicle.

The chysler Historical society uses the serial number as the record of the production of the vehicle.

Don't know what NC uses for document numbers, but for a 40's or 50's vehicle it will not be a VIN as we know them today. You might want to check with the DMV to see what they require for a number and suitable proof of ownership.

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My vin number on my NC title is a combination of the engine number and the body serial number (tag from the door jamb).

I thought I read here that the serial number is also on the frame near the driver front tire...but not positive on that.

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ther is a number on the frame, at least on my truck, located in front of the left tire on the frame.

Is it located anywhere else on the 53 116" wheel base frames? I looked with a wire brush and I don't see any numbers. The frame isn't in bad rusty shape, so I don't think I missed it.

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Therein lies the problem with the frame stamping method that was used for these trucks: identifying the number on a weathered, corroded and worn frame rail. On several frames, looking in the exact location forward of the shock mount near those two holes, and after cleaning off the dirt and most of the rust, the stamping is so faint that it has been almost illegible because the set depth was shallow. I was able to determine a few numbers by cleaning with a wire brush until smooth (no grinding!), then lightly shading the area with white chalk...the chalk does not go into the stamping, thereby "lifting" the numbers enough that a best guess can be made. The same method can be used on the flathead crankshaft pulley to identify timing marks :cool:

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Is it located anywhere else on the 53 116" wheel base frames? I looked with a wire brush and I don't see any numbers. The frame isn't in bad rusty shape, so I don't think I missed it.

It will be right ahead of the shock mount but as mentioned may be very hard to read. Try using a small sanding block with some fine sand paper. This method as opposed to a wire brush will leave some "color" in the stampings which should make it easier to read. Hope this helps.

Jeff

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And as I recall, the shallow numbers are fairly large and spaced out.  Don't give up, you'll find them and using light at different angles will also help you read them.  

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