Insulation/Sound Deadener On the Cheap

[55 Fargo]

Hey all went out and bought a 4 ft X 10 ft piece of double sided bubble foil duct insulation, it was just over $20.00.

I have done a preliminary test fit, and placed a large piece on the ceiling of my car, still have to cut to fit correctly, and use an adhesive to get it to stick.

For my test it is held up, by the headliner bows.

I did go for a ride, and it is cool out tonight, a sure difference with less noise, and the bare metal roof is cold to the touch, but the insulation side is warm.

Tomorrow, I will get it installed nicely, and will then take pics.

I know this is not the best stuff to use for this purpose, but it does work, and it is rated at R 5, whcih with the headliner installed against it, will be cooler in summer, warmer in the cold, and much quieter.

Fred

[1950 Special Deluxe]

Thinking of using this on my floor.

Take the seats out, clean up the floors, paint them, lay something like this down and then my new floors from Roberts.

[55 Fargo]

Thinking of using this on my floor.

Take the seats out, clean up the floors, paint them, lay something like this down and then my new floors from Roberts.

Yah, why not

[Robert Horne]

I bought some of this at a home supply store. I did almost all if my interior, trunk, floor, walls,,,,good sound deadner.

[55 Fargo]

I bought some of this at a home supply store. I did almost all if my interior, trunk, floor, walls,,,,good sound deadner.

Hi Bob, it seems to be not bad as a sond deadener, it's insulation quality is a bit lacking.

The insulation with the poly foam center, and foil on both outers, is better, but as we stated, this stuff is not expensive, and is worlds better that what was used in 1948, which under the headliner was probably nothing.....Fred

[55 Fargo]

Here are 2 pics of a test fit, still need to trim better, and use adhesive spray to make permanent......

[pflaming]

Been watching you and others on this type of insulation. For the upholster, i.e. final covering would it work and be acceptable to glue a modern fabric, like is used in new cars, to the insulation?

[55 Fargo]

Been watching you and others on this type of insulation. For the upholster, i.e. final covering would it work and be acceptable to glue a modern fabric, like is used in new cars, to the insulation?

I am not sure exactly what your ? is, do you mean, applying adhesive to the back side of the headliner, then adhering the insulation to the headliner.

I am using 3M super 77 or a high temp spray adhesive to the insulation then stick to the ceiling in the car, the headliner will then go on the bows as per usual.

In the pics, there is not adhesive on the insulation yet, it form fits pretty good, the bows are easily holding the insulation in place, it is very light stuff.

I did not use this on the door panels or floor, I used 1/4 inch foam on the panels under the cloth material, and glued it only where it needed to be, not the entire foam to the material. On the floor I used laminate floor foam underlay first, the good stuff meant for basements, 1/8 inch thick, then felt underlay over this, very good vapor barrier,sound deadener, and insulation qualites....Fred PS low budget, all on the cheap, as circumstances permit

[hkestes41]

Fred,

I think he was asking that once the insulation is glued to the roof if then material could be glued to the insulation to form the headliner. Kind of like they do with the newer cars rather than using the bows to hold the headliner as it was done originally with our cars.

[Plymouthy Adams]

Been watching you and others on this type of insulation. For the upholster, i.e. final covering would it work and be acceptable to glue a modern fabric, like is used in new cars, to the insulation?

NO..modern foam back headliner of one piece fame is designed to be glued onto a molded hardboard and installed. The foil is not substantial backing, the idea that 3M 77 spray will hold it is questionable in itself..this stuff is excellent for gluing shipping labels to boxes..find it very lacking for anything much heavier...most companies spraying glue will use the Weldwood contact cement and spray that on both surfaces and left to dry/skin over..then you have but one shot in setting it correctly...

I have seen the modern foam back used and sewn as the original headliners...I have seen the foam back used and stitched to the hardboard for a custom headliner look...

[Frank Elder]

Fred, is there enough space between the silver stuff and your head liner install to place some additional foam? like a good carpet underlayment......now that the ridgid stuff is in place it will give you a smooth uniform surface to apply another layer on it without fighting the irregularities of the car's ceiling per say, get my drift?

[55 Fargo]

The bubble foil insulation, is extremely lighty, and conforms well to the surface. I would not try and adhere anything heavy to it or the roof, with just spray adhesive, and infact have no plans to either, this stuff is good enough for me, as is, of course it will be glued to the inside of the roof before the headliner is installed.

I suppose others will do it some other way, with some other product, great, this is the way I am doing it.

I want the insulation to be bonded well the ceiling, the headliner will be on the bows, end of story............

[Robert Horne]

Here are 2 pics of a test fit, still need to trim better, and use adhesive spray to make permanent......

These photos look like most of the interior of my 38. On the roof I used some insulation material from a couple of cars that I junked. The rest of the interior looks like these photos. I used winshield urethane adhesive. The urethane sticks extremely well. I used some of the 3M spray also.

[Frank Elder]

The bubble foil insulation, is extremely lighty, and conforms well to the surface. I would not try and adhere anything heavy to it or the roof, with just spray adhesive, and infact have no plans to either, this stuff is good enough for me, as is, of course it will be glued to the inside of the roof before the headliner is installed.

I suppose others will do it some other way, with some other product, great, this is the way I am doing it.

I want the insulation to be bonded well the ceiling, the headliner will be on the bows, end of story............

Gotcha, I think what you have installed will work better than just the headliner....I have heard a lot of horror stories about byutl or dyna mat, asphalt leaking thru the headliner.