Dan Babb Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 Taking out bolts that haven't seen the light of day since the dawn of creation sucks! Spent the night getting the truck ready to pull off the front body panels. Just getting 4 bolts out took 2 hours. I know I'll be replacing anything I take off with stainless hardware. 50 years from now when someone wants to do a body off restoration, at least they can get them off with a bit less effort. Really glad I'm not doing a full body off restoration. At the present pace, it would take me a couple months just to get all the hardware off the truck. End of rant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigheaded Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 Hello, I know just how you feel. I have a 50 B-2-C and I have tried several different penetrating oils and I still wake the dead when I try to remove a bolt. It took me three weeks to remove the front sheet metal and bumper. I only broke 5 or six bolts that I will have to fix later. It just amazes me how hard it has been to remove each bolt. Good luck to ya! Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiftyFifty Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 Hello,I know just how you feel. I have a 50 B-2-C and I have tried several different penetrating oils and I still wake the dead when I try to remove a bolt. It took me three weeks to remove the front sheet metal and bumper. I only broke 5 or six bolts that I will have to fix later. It just amazes me how hard it has been to remove each bolt. Good luck to ya! Jerry Yup....spent a good part of my Sunday removing all the fender/grill bolts that I broke off....worst part is on my 50 their some really weird coarse bolt that nobody seems to have...my 51 has fine thread bolts in all those spots....but now it will have a bolt and nut on the back...drilled them out smooth after snapping 2 easy outs.. Wait till you ever take the front shackles apart....that day the torch was in overdive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBF Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 You may want to just use new hardware and never seize all of them-it'd be cheaper than SS hdwr. And you wouldn't want to deprive the next generation of busted knuckles or keep them from exercising of their mechanic's vocabulary would you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggdad1951 Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 heh, just wait till the REAR spring pins/bolts! I worked on mine for a while! I was lucky, my truck came apart pretty easy, but I also have the nice scar on a knuckle from the skipping cut-off wheel! IMO, break/cut the bolts off and replace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48Dodger Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 Taking out bolts that haven't seen the light of day since the dawn of creation sucks!Spent the night getting the truck ready to pull off the front body panels. Just getting 4 bolts out took 2 hours. I know I'll be replacing anything I take off with stainless hardware. 50 years from now when someone wants to do a body off restoration, at least they can get them off with a bit less effort. Really glad I'm not doing a full body off restoration. At the present pace, it would take me a couple months just to get all the hardware off the truck. End of rant. Don't know if this will help, but I did a video on removing the front sheet metal. http://www.youtube.com/user/194853DodgeTrucks#p/u/1/FiPeICxjSww 48D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1949P17BC Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 Have been doingthe same job. Try this heat the bolt/nut spray a little WD40 on them, lots of smoke. but they always come out So far only have broken two in removing all of the front sheet metal, fenders, inner fenders, cab doors and runnign boards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave72dt Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 The only ones I had trouble with were the ones where the metal holding the nut portion waas too rotted to hold and everything turned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Babb Posted July 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 The video was helpful. I also saw Don Olsen's video. Between the two, it really shows where all the hardware is and how to lift it off with the engine hoist. I'll try the heat/wd40 trick. I still have the driver side to do...then I'll be ready to lift it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave72dt Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 I've been hearing some really good things about using a 50/50 mix of acetone and ATF as a penetrating fluid. Haven't tried it myself so I Can't say positively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48Dodger Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 The video was helpful. I also saw Don Olsen's video. Between the two, it really shows where all the hardware is and how to lift it off with the engine hoist. Great! Glad it helped. 48D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1949dakota Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 I've been hearing some really good things about using a 50/50 mix of acetone and ATF as a penetrating fluid. Haven't tried it myself so I Can't say positively. ? doesn't acetone strip paint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggdad1951 Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 I've had really good luck with the "shmutz" (as my buddies and I call it) from NAPA w/ the yellow top. Spray it on, let it soak, wire brush the crud off, respray, wait, spray, wait (+ maybe some torch heat) and most came off pretty clean. I think in my WHOLE truck (except for the bed board bolts) we only sheared off 4 bols with that method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggdad1951 Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 ? doesn't acetone strip paint? yes, acetone is a SOLVENT! I'd think it'd take some paint off, but thinned down it might be a little more ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coW52Dodge Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 My weapon of choice is soaking anything stuck in Kroil first. That stuff is maybe a bit more expensive and harder to get than PBblaster but works magic. If that doesn't work, heat - then cursing and subsequent exterme violence in the form of an impact gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigheaded Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 Hello, I just heard about Kroil today. A friend said the same thing about it. I have already tried PBblaster but I thought it worked no better than WD40. I need to pull off my running boards so I am going to give Kroil a try and if that doesn't work I can see cursing in my future! Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coW52Dodge Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 Hello,I just heard about Kroil today. A friend said the same thing about it. I have already tried PBblaster but I thought it worked no better than WD40. I need to pull off my running boards so I am going to give Kroil a try and if that doesn't work I can see cursing in my future! Jerry It is very good stuff but harder to get. I've seen a couple of cans at Cabella's (out of all places!) once but you'll find that most FLAPS' don't carry it on a regular basis. A while back three friends and I split a case by ordering it directly from Kanolabs. They'll throw in an extra can and give you a money back guarantee so you can't go wrong. The Aerokroil can is very convenient but next time I'm getting non aerosol gallon, it being cheaper and you get more precise delivery when dripping it where you need it using an old school squirt can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41/53dodges Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 I've been hearing some really good things about using a 50/50 mix of acetone and ATF as a penetrating fluid. Haven't tried it myself so I Can't say positively. tried it once, didnt do crap. probably didnt do it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Babb Posted July 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 On the passenger side, I've had some luck on a few bolts by heating it up with a torch, then hitting it with the PB Blaster. I think it's more from the action of swelling from getting hot, then the shock of cooling down from the spray, but the smoke is fun to watch. I still had a few that were too stubborn, so I've broken out the grinder with a cutoff disc. I wish I had a nice compressor with a cutoff wheel...it would make the job easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41/53dodges Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 does your PB Blaster make you start coughing uncontrollably and laugh at anything anybody says afterwards when you make smoke with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ's Dodge Posted September 11, 2010 Report Share Posted September 11, 2010 (edited) I read your tread and really started to get a little worried about taking apart my front section, grill, and radiator so that I could make repair to the front dual drive pulley on the crank shaft. You all will probably hate me but I only had one troublesome bolt and it only took about ten minutes to take that one all of the way apart. I did not break a single bolt and I did not have to use any lubricants or heat. I kept the radiator attached and backed up my full size truck to the front of the heavy Dodge. The tailgate matched up really close to the front section to make the removal from one truck to the bed of the other. It worked slick since I was working solo. With a truck that was only used in harvest for a week or two a year, low humidity (never in the double digits here), stored nearly all of its life inside, less than 20 inches of rain in wetest of years, never on the road in the snow or rain....my truck is wonderfully preserved. As a result, no corrosion issues. It took a total of two hours and I had time for a lunch break within that timeline. LOL! KJ Edited September 12, 2010 by KJ's Dodge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Martin Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Acetone is very flammable. Becareful with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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