GreenPlymouth update, and starter problem?

[Rollie���]

I got sidetracked getting a daily driver Dodge Colt turbo road worthy and track ready, but now I'm back to the Plymouth. Today I applied 12v to the starter to

spin the fresh motor up (plugs out) to try and get oil pressure. Problem is the starter would barely turn the motor then give up the fight, all the while getting hot. I can spin the motor by the fan blade while applying pressure to the belt.

Do starters get so bad that they lose their torque? The starter out of the car spins up like crazy with 12v applied. Other notes, with the starter installed it

makes clicking noises when turning the motor over by hand, also messed up my known working starter by taking it apart to clean and paint it, doh.

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[boxer_inv]

Sorry I can't help with your problem, but just wanted to say that your engine is looking sweet!! Nice work indeed. Bet you can't wait till its on the road.

[David Strieb]

With the starter on the ground, it should not only spin fast, but you should have to hold it down to keep it from rolling around. Maybe the housing is cracked, or somehow getting into a bind when bolted to bellhousing??

Hope you can find the problem, your car looks great!!

[Plymouthy Adams]

starters drag and pull current out the yang while not spinning at given torque and speed under load..investigate the condition of the rear armature bushing...SOMETIMES you can just rotate the endcap 180 without pulling anything apart..if the speed and torque increase..guaranteed rear bushing enlongation..

[Niel Hoback]

Change the rear starter shaft bearing, like Tim said.

[pflaming]

The photo showing the manifold side of the engine shows two steel tubes. One comes from the water pump and goes to some 'manifold' below the exhaust manifold, the second steel pipe continues from that manifold to the far end of the head to the 'heater' return port/valve. What is accomplished by these two pipes? I have not seen such before.

You have a great looking engine.

[Plymouthy Adams]

appears to be a hot water heating system to replace the bypassed exhaust manifold oven lost with the twin exhaust manifolds..

[greg g]

What are you running for a carburetor?? The choke stove looks to be in a unusual position.

[Rollie���]

Thanks for the complements and yes the plumbing is for a Nitrous Oxide system, ha!, uh as Tim says it's to heat the intake. Greg, the carb/intake is of the 2 barrel variety off of the '55 Dodge motor I used to get the 230 goodies. That '55 motor had a hard line plumbed to the exhaust manifold to heat the choke, i'm going choke-less for now.

As for the starter I wimped out and to it took it to a local shop, turned out to be a bent armature.

Edited May 7, 2010 by Rollie���

[DutchEdwin]

Rollie, I don't know if what I'm going to say will be the problem but when I did service my starter I had to align the rear cap of the starter where the bearing is in. not aligning it would make it impossible to spin by hand.

Just a guess.