DutchEdwin Posted April 20, 2010 Report Posted April 20, 2010 I started my engine for the second time today. Got it running for about 7 minutes to warm up but couldn't take my foot from the gas pedal because it would stall immediately, cold or warm no difference. When I looked at the carburetor I saw it was whole wet with fuel. I ran with air filter on and a cork gasket between the filter and carburetor. On each side there are two pipes sticking out (do not know there purpose). In the chambers of these pipes there was a paddle of fuel accumulated (see the arrow in the first picture). Does anyone know what is wrong here? On the stalling of the engine I guess the timing is wrong (set advance at 2 TDC because of modern fuel, book says should be 4TDC). I'll set it to 4 TDC next time and see if it will run at idle. I'm glad the fuel pump and automatic choke are working properly Quote
greg g Posted April 20, 2010 Report Posted April 20, 2010 Float is set too high or sticking and not closing the needle valve. Or your fuel pressure is too high not allowing the float to close the needle. Quote
DutchEdwin Posted April 20, 2010 Author Report Posted April 20, 2010 Greg, that will be to much fuel than, making sense the engine will not idle because of to much fuel. I did all the carburetor adjustments from the manual, but I'll check on the adjustment of the needle again. How do I know there is to much pressure from the fuel pump. Not aware it can be influenced by something. Quote
greg g Posted April 20, 2010 Report Posted April 20, 2010 The only way to see the pressuer in the line is to put a guage in. Most mechanical pumps don't exceed 7 lbs per square inch. Some electrics will put out 2 or 3 X that and need a regulator. Might be a bit of debris in the seat area also. Quote
aero3113 Posted April 20, 2010 Report Posted April 20, 2010 Screw in your idle screw a couple turns. That should keep it running without keeping your foot on the pedal. Quote
woodie49 Posted April 21, 2010 Report Posted April 21, 2010 That carb looks a lot bigger than what I run on my car. It sounds like the carb is flooding the engine. I am not familiar with that carb, but if you just rebuilt it, you should check to see that the needle and seat are installed correctly. If it is, it sounds like the float is too high. Quote
Reg Evans Posted April 21, 2010 Report Posted April 21, 2010 (edited) That carb looks a lot bigger than what I run on my car.It sounds like the carb is flooding the engine. I am not familiar with that carb, but if you just rebuilt it, you should check to see that the needle and seat are installed correctly. If it is, it sounds like the float is too high. The carb looks like a Carter WCFB 4 barrel and Dutch's engine is a Poly(semi hemi) V8 in a 55 Plymouth Suburban. Neat car ! I use to have one in 1968. Same color too. I agree with all the earlier suggestions. I have a similar 315 c.i. engine in my 58 Dodge Sweptside pickup. Here's some photos of Dutch's Plymouth from his Photobucket. Edited April 21, 2010 by Reg Evans Quote
PatrickG Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 I believe the little chambers you pointed to in the first picture are the fuel bowl vents. So it would make sense that if the carb is flooding (fuel bowl filling up to much gas) due to one of the possible issues Greg mentioned, that the excess fuel would be overflowing at those points. Quote
Young Ed Posted April 23, 2010 Report Posted April 23, 2010 I love that wagon. It would be the perfect companion for my friends vert. Quote
DutchEdwin Posted May 5, 2010 Author Report Posted May 5, 2010 You were all right. Was a very very very dirty carburetor:eek:. Took my overhaul kit for the carb. and the digi camera. Took is apart, cleaned it with thinner, replaced the float needles and all gaskets. Adjusted every thing that had to be adjusted (float adjustment was way off). Put it together (glad I took those lots of pictures). Mounted it on the car today and started without priming the carb! It took 30 long exiting seconds and the engine started, ran like it was oiled with butter. Never heard her running that nice All the meters read: oil: ok, electricity: little charging; temperature: rising to normal. fuel, empty.....have to put some new cork on the float, no big deal. Next step: check the break cylinders for any leak because they have been standing for many years and take here for a test drive this weekend, to the gas station . Thank you all for helping. Quote
DutchEdwin Posted May 5, 2010 Author Report Posted May 5, 2010 oeps...Just a little to exited, have to do the timing and carburetor adjustment before the ride. Have it now in 4 TDC, Should do it as a start. Quote
eric wissing Posted May 6, 2010 Report Posted May 6, 2010 That is a great looking car. I really like the wagons. There can't be a whole lot of them still on the road. Eric Quote
DutchEdwin Posted May 6, 2010 Author Report Posted May 6, 2010 I love that wagon. It would be the perfect companion for my friends vert. Hi Ed, Great looking car your friend has. Is he on the forum also? I would like to get in touch with him to exchange experience on car problems. Sadly, going for a meet up with the cars would be difficult. The big pond is in between us. Edwin. Quote
Young Ed Posted May 6, 2010 Report Posted May 6, 2010 No I don't believe he's on the forum. I'll do my best to send him an email when I get home about contacting you. Quote
DutchEdwin Posted May 6, 2010 Author Report Posted May 6, 2010 No I don't believe he's on the forum. I'll do my best to send him an email when I get home about contacting you. Thanx. Would be cool Quote
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