marvel mystery oil

[michael.warshaw]

is this good to put in the gas?

[BobT-47P15]

Yes, you can put it in the gas as well as the oil.

Not sure of technical details about the product, but I figure it can't hurt.

Have used it off and on in the Plymouth over the years.

[Don Coatney]

I hate to sound like a broken record but one can go to Pets-Are-Us and buy a diamond studded collar for there favorite dog. The dog could care less as the collar is not required and does nothing. But by using this collar the dogs owners boost there personal comfort level and it makes them feel good.

One can go to Pep Boys and buy Marvel Mystery Oil or most any other liquid additive for there favorite car engine. The car engine could care less as the additive is not required and does nothing. But by using these additives the car owners boost there personal comfort level and it makes them feel good.

[55 Fargo]

I hate to sound like a broken record but one can go to Pets-Are-Us and buy a diamond studded collar for there favorite dog. The dog could care less as the collar is not required and does nothing. But by using this collar the dogs owners boost there personal comfort level and it makes them feel good.

One can go to Pep Boys and buy Marvel Mystery Oil or most any other liquid additive for there favorite car engine. The car engine could care less as the additive is not required and does nothing. But by using these additives the car owners boost there personal comfort level and it makes them feel good.

Is what they cal one of them thar plahseebo fixes, might as well use them little sugar pills, instead of the real valium.

A lot of these products no doubt are marketed to stae there performance, and /or ability to enhance performance, or solve problems that should otherwise be corrected by common sense service.

One thing items like STP and Lucas will do is thicken the oil, to a denser viscosity, alleviating some oil burning, blow by, maybe knocking etc.

I have tried one home made remedy touted and suggested by Lou Earle, the dishwasher detergent treatment to the cooling system to clean it out, and do an internal wash of the water jackets. I found this to work very well for me.

I would guuess these or certain additives will do something, but probably not the amount of something or expectations to the best of the owner wishes.

Now here is an aexample of "you are what you eat". A guy I work with tells me the other night, his mechanic changed his antifreeze, and flushed his cooling system on his 5 YO Dodge Van, the van had only 45000 miles.

Now this Guy keeps his vehicles in meticulous form.

He swears to me his Van has way better heat, now with a flush and new coolant, I remind him the outsdie ambient temps are 30s and 40s now, and not -20 or -30, he still beleives his new coolant is responsible for his heater throwing more heat. I think his mechanic is full of hot air, unless his heater core was partially plugged, and in his case it certianly was not

[pflaming]

My belief is that if an engine has been driven lazy, just around town, and is carboned out, an oil treatment will help once. One way to test is to put in theatment then put a piece of tape on the speedometer or RPM at a given speed or rate. Then take it for a 200 mile drive, set the cruise control and watch. If the treatment works, the car will drive faster and smoother.

I once dabbled with Conklin products. This was a test we used. Clean engines did not respond much, dirty engines did. The secret is that you have to work that engine once you put the stuff in. Working the engine gets it hot enough for the carbon to burn and drive it long enough to blow it out.

FWIW!

[Don Coatney]

My belief is that if an engine has been driven lazy, just around town, and is carboned out, an oil treatment will help once. One way to test is to put in theatment then put a piece of tape on the speedometer or RPM at a given speed or rate. Then take it for a 200 mile drive, set the cruise control and watch. If the treatment works, the car will drive faster and smoother.

This test is a bit too scientific for me to understand. Once cruise control is "set" the speed of the vehicle will stay as close to the set point as is possible depending on resistance (wind, inclines, declines, etc).

How do you quantify faster and smoother?

[David Strieb]

This is the Marvel Mystery Oiler on my '36 Chrysler. Works off vacum through the carb. Car is aproaching 500,000 miles, second engine. Using this oiler dosen't make me feel any better, I've always enjoyed driving my old cars.

[Robert Horne]

I borrowed my Mom's car to go on vacation, a 450 mile trip. I got 20 miles per gallon going, and got 34 miles per gallon on the return trip. I bought a Plymouth off my Aunt with 44,000 miles on it. Oil changed regular at each 3000 miles. I was changing the valve cover gaskets. When I pulled the valve cover off, I could barely see the valve springs. 44,000 miles of never leaving the city had caked up the engine, really bad. I believe a good trip once in a while or some interstate driving, will do better for an engine, than any additive.

[greg g]

Please explain to me how a vehicle with a set of gears which are in a fixed ratio can go faster at a given rpm setting??? 3000 rpm is going to yield 60 mph, no matter what is in the engine Oil or maple syrup. The maple syrup may not give you 3000 rpm for very long but the speed would be the same.

Never understood why a top lubricant was needed for a flathead engine with nothing on top to lubricate. I can understand why some one may put something like the MMO system on a Chevy OHV 6 which only had a partial pressure oil system and had stuff that needed oil at the top of the cylinder.

If Stuff like Restore, and slick 50 are with all their modern technology and chemicals are basically worthless, how MMO which is basically colored mineral oil and some basic stoddard solvent in it can be any more effective.

Are you going to boost your fuel milage by adding acetone to your gas????

I'm still waiting for my cast iron frying pan to soak up the Z max I put in it.

Edited October 24, 2009 by greg g

[Frank Elder]

What is zmax?:confused:Never heard of it, and didn't Pep boys go out of business?

[Norm's Coupe]

I call stuff like this snake oil.

QUESTION: Why do they call it Marvel Mystery Oil?

ANSWER: Because it's a Mystery as to what it actually does.

[Dennis Hemingway]

What is zmax?:confused:Never heard of it, and didn't Pep boys go out of business?

Not unless it did this week. I was in a Pep Boys last week.

Dennis:eek:

http://www.pepboys.com/?gclid=CKjrn7Wn1p0CFShSagodGjqdrw

[Frank Elder]

Thanks Dennis:)

[Don Coatney]

What is zmax?:confused:Never heard of it, and didn't Pep boys go out of business?

Follow the link below. I am a bit confused. If the internal engine componets soak up the product then why do they later continusously weep the product? Do the internal engine components soak and weep at the same time? Reminds me of the Budwiser commercial. They claim there new beer has a clean finish. Must be true as a swallow is a clean finish as I understand it.

http://www.zmax.com/why_use_zmax_/faq/

Does zMAX replace my regular engine oil?

No. You will not overfill your engine when installing zMAX to your regular oil quantity level. After a short period of operation, the internal engine components will soak up most of the product.

How long will a zMAX treatment last?

zMAX is a progressive lubrication treatment program. zMAX is not a quick fix one time treatment miracle. zMAX treatment is recommended every 6,000 miles or 6 months, whichever comes firstbecause zMAX continuously weeps from treated metal surfaces. By properly replenishing zMAX, your engine will receive the necessary continuous protection.

[greg g]

Pep Boys were selling some of their buildings (and then leasing them back) to raise cash for their purchase of a florida tire and service chain. There public stock is about 108% higher than last year at this time. They may be closing some underperforming locations but seem to be going strog as a company.

http://www.zmax.com/

And at 24 bucks a treatment you can understand why Z max recommeds yout treat every 6000 miles.

Doesn't all this soaking and weeping put extra strain on an engine. More snake oil mumbo jumbo. How can you add a pint of fluid to your crankcase and have it not be over filled????? If it is so good at soaking into metal, why does it then weep it out and wouldn't that over fill your crankcase again. Seems like they are breaking some basic laws of physics and fluid dynamics here, But I guess you need to believe Carrol Shelby after all he only gets about 4 million a year from the company to pitch its medicated gooo.

Edited October 24, 2009 by greg g

[Frank Elder]

Thanks for the link Greg, most celeberties turn into salesmen anyway, I don't trust them any more than Rusty down at the used car lot....

[Norm's Coupe]

Pep Boys were selling some of their buildings (and then leasing them back) to raise cash for their purchase of a florida tire and service chain. There public stock is about 1085 higher than last year at this time. They may be closing some underperforming locations but seem to be going strog as a company.

http://www.zmax.com/

And at 24 bucks a treatment you can understand why Z max recommeds yout treat every 6000 miles.

Doesn't all this soaking and weeping put extra strain on an engine. More snake oil mumbo jumbo. How can you add a pint of fluid to your crankcase and have it not be over filled????? If it is so good at soaking into metal, why does it then weep it out and wouldn't that over fill your crankcase again. Seems like they are breaking some basic laws of physics and fluid dynamics here, But I guess you need to believe Carrol Shelby after all he only gets about 4 million a year from the company to pitch its medicated gooo.

Sorta like the dealers and shops tell you to change your oil every 3,000 miles, when the auto manufacturer says 7,000 in their owners manual.

[Frank Elder]

Our cobalt tells us when the oil change is due, took a while to get used to that.

[Norm's Coupe]

Our cobalt tells us when the oil change is due, took a while to get used to that.

I really don't know if my Optima tells me that. Haven't read all of the manual yet. But.........it does tell me when I need gas and air in the tires. Has a bunch of those idoit lights with symbols on the dash when you first turn the key on. Even tells me when I'm driving at the most fuel efficient manor and speed.

[Frank Elder]

When it is time the electronic odometer numbers go away and the phrase Change oil soon pops up instead, you have manually switch it back to the odometer if you want to read the miles instead. Also on the same button you can look to see at what percent efficency your oil is at at any given time.

[baldbusdriver]

marvels is really good at unsticking stuck things, used it to free up a stuck flathead that had rust in the bores. if i remember right its supposed to help clean carbon buildup in the combustion chamber when mixed in the gas. to me marvel is too expensive for that use as there are just as effective and cheaper ways to do it. a nice spray mist of water at open throttle does quite nicely, or about 1/2 quart of atf in one full tank of gas works quite well too.

[Frank Elder]

You know what, I'm gonna just throw this out there, I have less than 50 K on this 4 banger....is it a good option to run synthetic oil or is that overated too?

[pflaming]

RPM's and Speed control. I may be stating things incorrectly so here is what we did. We put a piece of tape on the RPM gauge when the tractor was warmed up, then added the correct ratio of what Conklin called 4-POWER to the fuel. The tractor ran with a set throttle (cruise control) and therefore with a set ground speed. If the tractor was 'gummed up' the RPM's would increase in about an hour or so and improve throughout that tank of fuel. Just what that means I probably cannot explain, I just know it sold product. In some diesel tractors, which put out black smoke, that would eventually disappear.

For what its worth. I am not defending nor advocating anything, just relating a personal experience. Fair enough? Hope so.

[Frank Elder]

Paul, I bet you are not a Cyclone fan today:D

[Captain Neon]

marvels is really good at unsticking stuck things, used it to free up a stuck flathead that had rust in the bores. if i remember right its supposed to help clean carbon buildup in the combustion chamber when mixed in the gas. to me marvel is too expensive for that use as there are just as effective and cheaper ways to do it. a nice spray mist of water at open throttle does quite nicely, or about 1/2 quart of atf in one full tank of gas works quite well too.

I regularly add 8 oz. of ATF to my petrol when filling up.