55 Fargo Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Hi, does anyone know what may be the corect way to install the cowl/hood lacing. I just got some from Roberts, the old stuff was off the car, I was using truck camper weather strip. The old splined nails are still on the body, should I use those, or new screws, or weatherstrip adhesive. The little flat head nails are aout 1/2 inch long with splines. I hope someone may know what the correct way to inctall this lace, could please explain the procedure........Thanx Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 the twisted (fluted) nails care hardened steel and are easily removed from under the cowl with a drift and tapping hammer..they are reusable..to try and remove them with a plier of any kind will work but at the cost of marring the finish or distorting the head...once removed..a piece of masking tape on either side of the seal will allow you to draw a straight line across to pinpoint the location of the hole with a exact measurement from one "+" marked on the tape to the hole' exact cneter.. center..not at all hard..set out and mark it right..be done before you know it.. as an added note..if you do not have anyone to catch the nail...tape a spray paint can lid over the care to keep it from falling..be a one man show that way.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55 Fargo Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Thank you very much Guys., will try and get the fluted nails out, I have removed 1 very easily the other hasn't budged. I can see how the head could easily be distorted with small vise grips.....Thank you again, will let you know how it turns out, will be doing it tonight, as the 2 Yard Apes(my boy and girl), demand my attention during the day, gotta go one is hollaring now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertKB Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 The nails can be got new from Restoration Specialties or re-use the old ones. Tim's point about using the original holes is a good one. My body man who painted my '38 helped me put my hood lace on and was shocked that I would even consider making new holes. Take a good look where the hole is, eye up the nail on the lacing, place over hole, tap gently until you know you have found the hole, tap a bit harder to get it through the hole, use a punch to finally set it in place. Done and easy as Tim said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55 Fargo Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 The nails can be got new from Restoration Specialties or re-use the old ones. Tim's point about using the original holes is a good one. My body man who painted my '38 helped me put my hood lace on and was shocked that I would even consider making new holes. Take a good look where the hole is, eye up the nail on the lacing, place over hole, tap gently until you know you have found the hole, tap a bit harder to get it through the hole, use a punch to finally set it in place. Done and easy as Tim said. Hi Robert, exactly, I already have 1/2 of the nails out, they are in fine shape, will do as you have described. I do have 1 ?, do you know if the hood lace is 1 continuous piece from 1 side of the car to the other, or does it install in 2 pieces, with the very center of the cowl not having any in that area?.................Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desoto1939 Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 On my 39 DeSoto it was two peices since I had the Butterfly type of hood. If you have this type of hood the hood hinge bolts to the cowl and you can not run the lace of the mounting holes. I pulled the orginal stle rivets that look like screws out with a small nail puller. Since I could not find the originals I just replaced them with a galvanized screw and this way I can take out the screws when ever I need to replace the lacing. Since the originals had a slot the judges or so call know-it-alls have a very hard time telling the difference. even if they get so picky then they do not need to judge my car. Eventhe jusdes at AACA do not look this close. They look to see if the cars looks to assembled as it should have. The olny way to determine if the wrong rivet was used is to get inthe car or truck craw under the dash and look up. The judges are not permitted to look in a car and get under the dash. Do it the easy way so you can remove the lacing if you need to in the future. rich Hartung just my two cents of advise. Desoto1939@aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertKB Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Hi Robert, exactly, I already have 1/2 of the nails out, they are in fine shape, will do as you have described. I do have 1 ?, do you know if the hood lace is 1 continuous piece from 1 side of the car to the other, or does it install in 2 pieces, with the very center of the cowl not having any in that area?.................Fred I have actually done the hood lace on a '47 Chrysler and I seem to remember it being two pieces for some reason but it was a while ago and I am not certain. Hopefully, someone with a '46-'48 Chrysler will chime in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normanpitkin Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 my 48 new yorker cowl lacing is in two pieces ,a large rubber stop being right in between the two ,this rubber stop fell off recently but i simply glued it back on.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55 Fargo Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Thanx Guys, looked at my parts car, looked in 2 pieces the thicker rubber in the center. I am going to use trunk weatherstrip for the center piece. Thanx again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55 Fargo Posted August 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 Got 1 side done, looks okay, need some real thick rubber for the center piece. Will do the other side tonight yet, using the old futed nails/screws, they look okay, tried some screws first, but they were Rorbertson (square slots), did not look good.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertKB Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 Pictures when done, please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55 Fargo Posted August 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 Pictures when done, please! Okay will do, it's done, except the thick center rubber piece, the cowl lacing was quite easy to do. I re-used every fluted screw, I simply lined up the lacing, and used an awl,poked a hole inserted the little screw, and hammer it in with a drift punch. Will post pics when I can borrow the Wife's camera...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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