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  1. "I am not trying to put down this gentleman or the use of the tool but just thinking out of the box on the cost and the return on investment. So you could also say the same about the catalogs that I collect. Rich HArtung Desoto1939@aol.com" If I were to look at this hobby as a simple question of pragmatism.......it wouldn't be a hobby but a failed business enterprise. The cost of entry and return on investment of the ownership of a 1930's - 1940's Mopars is almost always of a negative monetary value. Some people find the return on investment in the intrinsic personal value of ownership, DYI repair and the pleasure derived from operating a 75 year old vehicle that still does exactly what it was designed to do in a very respectable manner. I guess the ability to make your own gaskets is just another great addition to the "tool box" using a relatively affordable consumer product. Can you imagine making the "plastic" dash moldings for a Town & Country" with a 3D printer.....now that could be cost effective. The meeting of new consumer tech and old cars is a great marriage....more to come.
  2. There a number of rare and valuable cars in both Public and Private Museums in India here is one for starters: http://www.vccci.com/vintage-car-museum I have been sending parts to India for a number of years to a gentleman with a private museum.
  3. The "PLYMOUTH" cowl moldings are actually DeSoto and they look like a mouse ate the corner off! Plymouth and DeSoto from 46-48 had a different profile on the moldings. How the seller gets away with calling it good used is baffling. buyer beware...
  4. There must be some value in recycling the parts into the Plymouth community? If it goes to scrap it will end the useful life for restoring these old cars. If you buy it and get some use out of it, then sell parts to others that need them...that is a worthwhile diversion from the scrap yard. Reuse, Recycle.....don't scrap.
  5. Parts were made by a number of suppliers from different parts of the country.......from different materials. Plants in Detroit, Evansville Los Angeles and Windsor did not have all of the same suppliers. For geographical reasons alone there were more then one supplier of many of the outsourced parts. As long as the item fit & worked it seemed to satisfy WPC Corporation. Example; there are at least three different versions of a 1941 Front Grill outer moldings. Some were two piece with a joiner clip, some were solid made out of one piece, etc. I have seen many variations of the same part especially when it comes to body moldings and hood ornaments. Often that includes variations in size including minor measurement tolerances, material and finish.
  6. I had a 1947 Desoto Coupe. Went to a car show and there was a gentleman there with a 4 door. He was ecstatic....and ran back and forth between the two cars. After a half hour he declared that they were 7 digits apart in the VIN number and were made at the same factory (possibly the same day). Both cars were very original and there were many differences including the door handles. Excluding differences between models and trim codes......they were equipped with a multiple of variations. Probably grabbed what ever was left in the parts bin and of course DeSoto was a far more limited run then Plymouth. BUT, I am sure there are many variations on 1946-1948 Plymouth outside of trim code. Different manufacturing plants, different suppliers and different geographical reasons. Not every part with the same part number is the same part materials. edit due to spelling and grammar....oops!
  7. Hi TodFitch, Just curious? In the 30's were the head light reflectors made of brass with an actual silver (AG) coating that would tarnish just like tableware? Thanks.
  8. These parts were made by a number of suppliers from different parts of the country.......from different materials. Plants in Detroit, Evansville Los Angeles and Windsor did not have all of the same suppliers. For geographical reasons alone there were more then one supplier of many of the outsourced parts. As long as the item fit & worked it seemed to satisfy WPC Corporation. I have seen many variations of the same part especially when it comes to body moldings. Often that includes variations in size including minor measurement tolerances, material and finish.
  9. The ones I have had are "Flash Plated" stainless. Some other years and models had pot metal but I havent seen a solid outer "escutcheon" on a 46-48 Plymouth. The hollow ones are almost always pressed stainless steel "flash plated". Late 1930's had some plated brass outer escutcheons as well.
  10. If you mean the "belt molding" section attaches to the handle on a 1948 Plymouth it is stainless steel. Pretty sure it comes off with the collar that this thread is discussing.
  11. The door handle retainer sleeve is made of a soft pliable metal. The two indentations are removed by twisting the collar back and forth at 90 degrees intervals. This motion will smooth out the indentations and the sleeve comes right off. Installation is even easier, Just slip the collar on and use a chisel to gently make the indentations in the collar at the appropriate location. No secret, no need to PM. The issue of pot metal is interesting! I have examples of pot metal items (ie. horn rings) where a cross section view shows that the metal is "decaying" or rotting from the inside out. It looks like a blackish chalky material disintegrating from the inside out. Sometimes the chrome plating is literally holding the item together. Once the plater strips the chrome plating from the pot metal it breaks or falls apart. The owner is NEVER happy when the chrome shop calls to explain the "deceased" part and the owner complains that the shop doesn't know what they are doing! Many good or smart chrome shops will not work with 75 year old pot metal parts as it creates a lot of grief for both sides. Personally I understand the problem and don't blame the shop and would be wary of a cavalier shop that doesn't understand the possible inner decay.
  12. The new tank is different I supplied the NOS tank to be reproduced
  13. The 1930's and early 1940's speedo cable had a fitting on one end a tubular profile for the cable and the other end was pressed into a "square" shape. I would be very interested to see how cutting the universal cable would replicate the "square" profile end.
  14. that's a respectable price $325 plus $50 shipping really glad that these are available NOS ones were around $550 in the past Finally more repro parts for 30's & 40's MOPARS are being produced thats a good thing.
  15. repro fuel tanks These repro tanks were recently manufactured from an NOS original tank. Two sellers same tank $699 or $349 your choice same tank http://www.ebay.com/itm/41-48-Chrysler-DeSoto-Dodge-Plymouth-gas-fuel-tank-new-steel-Correct-repro-/231616569157?fits=Year%3A1941|Make%3APlymouth&hash=item35ed6c5f45:g:PcAAAOSwPhdU1PUK&vxp=mtr http://www.ebay.com/itm/1940-1941-1942-1946-1947-1948-CHRYSLER-DESOTO-DODGE-PLYMOUTH-REPRO-FUEL-TANK-GAS-/181877464895?hash=item2a58bddf3f:g:sPMAAOSwpDdVd0d0&vxp=mtr
  16. The trim on the lower edge of the front fender is a runningboard molding extension. They were available as an option. The ones pictured do not look correct as the original OEM had a rounded off point on the front leading edge. It is hard to tell in the picture but the molding looks different then the OEM Mopar part.
  17. In the northern hemisphere water circles the drain in a clockwise direction and a counterclockwise direction in the Southern Hemisphere. Maybe the bi-metal coil expands and contracts in a different rotation based on if it was made in the USA or China? East vs. West physics?
  18. The shortest is 1 7/16", then 1 1/2", 1 11/16", 1 3/4" and 1 7/8" All are just under a 1/2" call it 7/16"
  19. Here is another interesting item... Thexton Oil Pressure Regulators
  20. Here is an assortment of different OIL PRESSURE SPRINGS The correct spring for 1946 -1948 P15 Plymouths are #1119994 standard (plain metal) #1119995 light duty (painted red) #1119996 Heavy Duty (painted Green) Same length different tension. Below are an assortment of Oil pressure springs, Different lengths Different colors Easy to get the wrong one Left to Right Left 1 7/8" long 2nd from Left1 13/16" 3rd from left 1 3/4" long far right 1 11/16" long All springs are NOS new unused old stock...
  21. "In the P15 Parts List manual, page 174, is a drawing illustrating a standard installation. The Plymouth Service Manual ('46-'54) on page 153 provides an explanation of how the filter works. When the oil pressure relief valve is closed the oil pump fills the oil line and oil filter. The relief valve blocks oil flow FROM the filter to the crankcase. When the oil pressure is greater than relief valve spring tension, the valve starts to open. Excess (clean) oil then returns form the filter to crankcase. The relief valve opens a passage for the oil to flow from the filter to crankcase. Because the filtering operation is dependent upon proper and timely operation of the oil pressure relief valve, the quantity of oil cleaned is substantially less when compared to a modern full flow filter. The size of the oil line is approximately 25% of what is found on a modern filter so the volume of oil when the pressure relief valve is open is also much lower. While filtering may longer than a modern full flow spin on filter, the level of filtering is much higher than a full flow. Because of this they provide excellent protection for your engine's components." Quoted from the tech side of this website. I would have to guess that the different springs allow for the oil pressure relief valve to open at the correct time depending on the pressure as determined by the condition (i.e. compression, oil pressure etc.) of your specific motor. I am a parts guy not a mechanic......
  22. All I remember is that each spring has a different color to differentiate it from the other. Green White Metal (natural color)
  23. The Parts Book is an illustrated book, HOWEVER the illustrations are not accurate. In the page I uploaded the mount is the truck style even though it is in the passenger car book. Chrysler used a representative illustration not the exact part. A little confusing.
  24. Young Ed is Correct, Car is different then truck. In his picture the mount is a closed circle. In the photo below (taken of a car mount) it is more like a "Y"
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