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From a business perspective it would seem to make sense. But in reality, whomever supplied materials at the best contracted prices, probably won. Wonder who supplied the wood in Windsor Ontario, was it from Ontario lumber mills or BC lumber mills, or was it shipped over from the USA...

Well $140 ( adapter plate) and no holes to drill, no clutch disc to create for the GM spline, I dunno you still need to do a driveshaft, swap in another rearend. So yah install the trans, with the plate, driveshaft and diff, not a whole lot different. The gear spread is nice with the A833, the B&W T5 NWC has some very low geared types, so first is almost as useless as the bull low on the 4sp. The gear spread on that trans has some to be desired too. I think it might work well with my 3.23 diff, but a 3.73 or 3.90 no so much. A friend of mine has a NWC T5 in his 32 Chrysler with a 250 and a 3.90 rearend, he starts off in 2nd gear a lot. Now his seemed to be okay too, but whenever anyone ever mentions a T5 trans to those who have not undertaken this swap, or who may not be real familiar with the trans, I offer another solution if anyone is interested. I have no financial interest in the AoK A833 adapter, just for the record. The A833 is a very rugged trans, and the T5 can handle what our engines can dish out. At the end of the day so many spout about a T5 swap, but most don't do it, in my case, with my current 3.23 gears, have no immediate plans, but when I do swap in my A833 I have the adapter plate, but will be looking for another rear end, as the overdrive and 3.23 will have my setup outta steam too easily. Have you installed your T5 yet, and how is it going if you have?

Or an even another great Mopar trans the A833 overdrive, with a very simple adapter plate. With a T5 NWC trans, you better know the gear spread as some are ridiculously low, making 1st gear useless like a granny 4 spd.

Love it, so much character and charm

Sounds like an old "stuffy" event, but I get it. Not my bag, but whoever enjoys this fill yer boots...

Money talks, bull $hit walks. If he hands you the greenbacks, then you know he likes fire damage sales.....

C Canadian engine 3 3/8 bore and 4 1/4 inch stroke = 228 ci, plus the .040 over bore P 25 1954 Plymouth

Shouldn't you have put it away at the lake for the winter already? Seriously, I have driven through your town, whats it like these days, on the freeways I mean, especially in an old car or truck?

, Hey Guys, so over on the "HAMB" a thread was created and the topic is using our old cars/trucks/hotrods for commuting to work. Many who live in large urban areas have a very stressful drive in those scenarios, kinda defeats the old car experience purpose. I can get away with it where I live or cruising most of the highways. So how about you guys, can you drive your old cars and trucks on the highways/freeways/interstates where you reside?

Here is my elcheapo job almost 5 years later,

Isn't the OP the guy who takes pictures going 70-75 mph in a Plymouth on freeways? Is the replacement car a 50 mph 2 lane State highway car now?

Well yes some the materials offered today are show quality ss compared to the assmembly line. Now if your truck is a "parade/show queen" might be a reason to really dress her up, If your truck is a work truck, might want to go for durability. I used marine grade fir plywood, which is okay, but would not do it again. I would use a hardwood board, and can get them milled locally. I am not sure if I would use plain strips or go stainless fancy though....

You don't need those anymore, magnetic stick on the oil pan heaters, work great.http://www.autozone.com/heating-and-cooling/engine-heater/kat-s-heaters-300-watt-magnum-magnetic-heater/130210_0_0/?checkfit=true

In the interim, how about 2 inline fuel filters, 1 frm the fuel pump to carb, and 1 from the tank before the pump. This might keep things clear until you decide what to do, you either have crud in the tank or the fuel lines.

Lets all go for a drive,

A 230 with dual carb/exhaust and 4.11 gears you should be getting to 50 mph like right fast. My 228 dual carbs/exhaust gets to 50 mph pretty quick, even with 3.23 gears. I know you are joking about the 6.5 minutes, your truck must be plenty torquey by the sounds of it.....

yes they were replaced at some point with an industrial engine. Now you could regrind a cam for what you want, shave the head, to increase the compression and get a lot more bang for the buck. Are these engines in good running order? You may be able to use them as is, if they are in good condition. You really should contact timkingsbury, he will be able to help you out with your questions...

Yes a IND 251 is the industrial engine and is a 250.6. used in a lot of Massey combines as well as Cockshutt combines too. The cams are different on these and suited for low rpm grunt work, in many cases. I do not understand the question "are these the T317 engines", what are you asking? Contact timkingsbury for detailed info on any of these engines. There are plenty of 265 engines to be had in our area yet, I know where you could get 1 in the Swan River area if your are interested. But the IND 251 might be a good engine to rebuild and put into your truck, the 218 is almost the lowest in HP, like 95 hp.......

Yes of course, I am not saying will all agree on here 100% of the time. But this is a far cry from the HAMB, if its not traditional or post 1964, your thread/post could be in for a rude awakening...

Not really Shel, the HAMB has a reputation for deleting threads, locking threads and banning people for life.... Are you referring to my "Work Profession" ? If you are, I have spent a lot of years, as do many Men and Women in your country who risk their lives to protect lives and well being of law abiding citizens.

Listen Jeff, I am not disagreeing with you on some key points, despite what some others may attest too. These trucks with the right gearing, will of course cruise at speeds faster than 55 mph, but is it comfortable, and is it safe? I would agree that my truck is quite comfortable at 55-60 mph, but on certain roadways this would not be safe and/or comfortable, I think you would agree. The OP, he needs to understand in order to get useful highway speeds he needs to be geared correctly, and have the braking to back it up. The suspension and steering if in top shape to me is not a deal breaker, as it IMHO is not that bad at all. PS My daily is a Ram truck with a Hemi 8 speed, but rarely am I driving at over 65 mph,but can get away with on the roadways around here. I tend to be a slower driver....

What's it you what interests me, is this not a free country???? I obviously am not the only person on here who has an interest in this topic, as the OP is not me. I suggest if you don't like my posts and comments you don't have to read it and you know what to do. BTW who said this was about "comfort zone" speeds, the title is Pilothouse Top Speed, not driving 80 mph down I 5. Listen Jeff you are not all that happy with your speed and performance in your traffic area , and 55 mph is going to get you in deep trouble on some of your roadways. If you cannot post a 'top speed' on this thread, what is your point and interest??????????????????

Thought we would have more posts on this thread, come you guys how fast are you driving these old trucks? I did take my truck out yesterday for a drive cruising into a brutal Northwest wind and driving 65 mph, and had a lot more pedal, but low on gas. My speedo reads 55 mph for 65 mph, as verified by GPS, 3.23 rear gears will do this. I did not have the GPS along, I did however make a video, but did not post it on here as there will be those demanding PROOF, some of those have posted on this thread, not adding anything to the OPs original topic.....

The US built 218 short engine flywheel is 4 bolt, the 230 and the long block engine are 8 bolt. Canadian engines are all 8 bolt cranks, to the best of my info. Now a 218 4 bolt flywheel may bolt to the 8 bolt crank flange, this I am not sure of, but the reverse would might work too, but again have done personally tried this. Enjoy your 250 engine in the truck, with the right gearing it will be enjoyable. Correction the big blocks and the 230 engines are 8 bolt crank flanges.

These are great, and even up here in Manitoba, think colder than Fargo, almost instant heat when you start the engine. A lot of diesels, trucks buses tractors etc use these.....