Patriotic disc brake sale.....$200

[Olddaddy]

I've had a lot of inquiries lately about my disc brake and shock arm kits, but not too many sales. I assume the price of gas and the soft economy are crimping peoples disposable hobby income. In an attempt to shore up the nation and help the old car and truck hobby I am reducing my disc brake kits from $225 down to $200, and the shock arms from $60 down to $50, both prices include shipping to lower 48 addresses. I will honor this price for the Patriotic month of July in honor of our nation's birthday. Strike while the fever of Patriotism is upon me.........and while I need the extra cash myself.

I will donate a portion of each sale to support the forum, the more I sell the more I will donate!

[Allan Faust]

PM'd you Charlie...

Allan

[James_Douglas]

Charlie,

Have you ever done a rear disk brake kit for the 46-48 Mopars?

I hade that kits custom made for my fronts by ECI and I would love to see if I could get the same rotors to work on the rears. I would however like a caliper with an real emergency brake.

The only problem is that my car uses the same chassis as the big Chrysler 8 and no one make a kit for those.

James

[Olddaddy]

I have a late model 8 3/4 rear in my car and installed a Scarebird kit on it. It uses a Ford rotor and a GM caliper with ebrake. I never made anything up for the stock rears, just not enough of a market for them. I was actually too lazy to make my own kit for the rear in my car. A customer bought the Scarebird kit then went with a Lincoln rear, so I inherited the Scarebird stuff.

[James_Douglas]

I have disk on the front. Custom made. Thinking of doing the rears...

James

[Alexander]

Please post what your kit inlcludes and or perhaps a picture.

Thanks

[greg g]

charlies website has pics and stuff.

www.rustyhope.com

[kencombs]

Can you tell us what rotor and caliper are used? I would like to price the stuff that needs to be locally sourced before committing to the kit.

[PatS....]

Charlie,

Have you ever done a rear disk brake kit for the 46-48 Mopars?

I hade that kits custom made for my fronts by ECI and I would love to see if I could get the same rotors to work on the rears. I would however like a caliper with an real emergency brake.

The only problem is that my car uses the same chassis as the big Chrysler 8 and no one make a kit for those.

James

AAJ has a kit to fit my 49 Chrysler 6 rear. They use a GM caliper. If you use a Cadillac caliper with that kit, they have an integral eBrake.

[Olddaddy]

Here's the info on my kits, the prices quoted are discounted until 7-31-08. Kits are $200 and Shop work is $80, shipping included. I also have shock relocation arms for $50.

I make kits for mid 30s-late 50s Dodge/Plymouth trucks, and mid 30s-late 50s Plymouth cars. These years are approximate, and the kits may fit other years. Check the picture below to see if your spindle looks like either of the two shown. If so, you car or truck can probably be converted using my kit. My kits can be installed on Dodge, DeSoto, and Chrysler cars by installing Plymouth spindles on the original suspension. The Plymouth spindles mount identically to the others, using the same king pins and bushings.

My kit includes the caliper brackets, spacers, hardware, parts list and instructions. You will also need rotors, calipers, pads, bearings, seals, nuts, brake hose, banjo bolts, and cotter pins. The necessary parts are commonly available nationwide at a variety of parts stores including Napa, Discount Advance, Autozone, and many others. I've bought all the necessary parts for the conversion locally for under $200. The rotors on all my kits are a Mopar Volare item with a 5 on 4 1/2" bolt pattern. The calipers are either GM Camaro, or Pickup depending on which vehicle you are converting. The kits normally sell for $225 shipped to lower 48 addresses, add $20 to Canada. Shipping to Europe or elsewhere is available, but I will need your post code info to quote a price. Also, if you live in an area outside the US where parts may not be readily available, I can provide complete kits with all parts necessary to do the conversion.

The kits require you to drill and tap two or three mounting holes on each spindle to 5/8"-18 fine thread depending on which vehicle you are converting. Trucks and early Cars have two holes to drill, later Cars have three. You will also need to drill out the holes in your steering arms to 11/16" which is clearance for a 5/8" bolt. If you cannot do that I will do it for you for $20 per piece, $80, plus $20 shipping, $100 total to lower 48 addresses, add $10 to Canada. I can email you the parts list after you pay if you want to get a jump on your parts purchases. You can pay via paypal, or money order. I regret I cannot take personal checks, or credit cards. Email me off forum if you need my address.

[PatS....]

Here's the info on my kits, the prices quoted are discounted until 7-31-08. Kits are $200 and Shop work is $80, shipping included. I also have shock relocation arms for $50.

I make kits for mid 30s-late 50s Dodge/Plymouth trucks, and mid 30s-late 50s Plymouth cars. These years are approximate, and the kits may fit other years. Check the picture below to see if your spindle looks like either of the two shown. If so, you car or truck can probably be converted using my kit. My kits can be installed on Dodge, DeSoto, and Chrysler cars by installing Plymouth spindles on the original suspension. The Plymouth spindles mount identically to the others, using the same king pins and bushings.

My kit includes the caliper brackets, spacers, hardware, parts list and instructions. You will also need rotors, calipers, pads, bearings, seals, nuts, brake hose, banjo bolts, and cotter pins. The necessary parts are commonly available nationwide at a variety of parts stores including Napa, Discount Advance, Autozone, and many others. I've bought all the necessary parts for the conversion locally for under $200. The rotors on all my kits are a Mopar Volare item with a 5 on 4 1/2" bolt pattern. The calipers are either GM Camaro, or Pickup depending on which vehicle you are converting. The kits normally sell for $225 shipped to lower 48 addresses, add $20 to Canada. Shipping to Europe or elsewhere is available, but I will need your post code info to quote a price. Also, if you live in an area outside the US where parts may not be readily available, I can provide complete kits with all parts necessary to do the conversion.

The kits require you to drill and tap two or three mounting holes on each spindle to 5/8"-18 fine thread depending on which vehicle you are converting. Trucks and early Cars have two holes to drill, later Cars have three. You will also need to drill out the holes in your steering arms to 11/16" which is clearance for a 5/8" bolt. If you cannot do that I will do it for you for $20 per piece, $80, plus $20 shipping, $100 total to lower 48 addresses, add $10 to Canada. I can email you the parts list after you pay if you want to get a jump on your parts purchases. You can pay via paypal, or money order. I regret I cannot take personal checks, or credit cards. Email me off forum if you need my address.

It's a great kit and the service is the best.

[YukonJack]

Can you tell me what the shock kit consists of? Do you have a picture?

[Olddaddy]

The shock arm kit is a pair of upper shock mount arms and instructions. I used to include the studs, but the shocks called out in the kit include the studs. It's a pretty easy install, but you have to pay attention to the position of the arm as it relates to the center of travel for the suspension and shock. I explain it pretty well in the instructions, and as with anything I sell I'm available via email for support.

[later]

Just out of curiosity what is the difference between Chrysler and Plymouth spindles? I have a first series 49 Windsor and I have been looking for disc brake options. I have looked at the scarebird kit and a few others and was wondering if a similar bracket set could be made for the Chrysler spindle. Thanks.

[Olddaddy]

The two spindles are very similar, but the Plymouth is smaller and has a flat mounting surface where the backing plate, and the caliper bracket bolt up. The Chryser, Dodge, and DeSoto spindles have an offset in the upper mounting bolt.

Other than the offset the spindles are nearly identical. I've installed Plymouth spindles on Dodge and Chrysler cars and they mount exactly the same. In the pic Dodge on the left and Plymouth on the right.

[builtfercomfort]

The front brake kits also fit other cars - at least a 1939 Chrysler. (These look and work about the same as later cars but have forged A-frame members, not heavy stamped steel like the P-15). I like mine.

The shock kit I bought did not fit, probably due to the above reasons. Anyway, I know there are a lot of pre-war owners on the forum, and it's worth asking Charlie about what they will fit.

[Fred Rose]

How do the shock kits mount. Do they have to be welded?

[Olddaddy]

The older cars use the same spindle as the trucks, so the truck kit will fit them. It might be possible to install truck spindles on the large frame cars, but I have not done that.

As far as fit on the shock arms, I usually figure the car owner knows what he's got better than I do. I mean I know in general what years are comparable to one another, and what years I've done. When you get back before about 42 it's a slightly different car than post war. Anything in the 30s is a crapshoot. If it looks like a post war car or truck my kit will most likely fit. If the parts don't fit your 39 I'll refund them for you.

[Olddaddy]

Yes, the shock arms are welded to the frame.

[later]

Would it be possible to make a set for the Chrysler/Dodge/DeSoto size spindles and add a spacer for the offset in the upper mount?

[PatS....]

Would it be possible to make a set for the Chrysler/Dodge/DeSoto size spindles and add a spacer for the offset in the upper mount?

I am using Charlie's kit on my 1949 Chrysler and when I bought the kit, I had Charlie supply the Plymouth Spindle pre drilled and threaded.

I have done the test fit onto the Chrysler (which had the different spindles)

The fit is perfect and the spindle is not distinguishable from the original.

If you get the kit with the pre drilled/tapped Plymouth spindle for your Chrysler, you will be impressed by the ease and simplicity of installation.

A modified kit for the Chrysler spindle is really not required.

If you or a future owner want to revert back to original, it is just simply a matter of bolting all the original parts back in place.

Simple.

The switch to disc's is about the same price as a redo of the original brakes. Then parts are easy to get and the brakes are less troublesome and more reliable and stop quicker. A win win win to me.

Plymouth Spindles sandblasted, painted, new brass kingpin bushings installed replacing the original roller bearings in the Chrysler spindles...I also bought new kingpins: