Uncle-Pekka Posted January 20, 2008 Report Posted January 20, 2008 I did the small job on my Christmas holiday and promised to post some pictures later on - well, finally I do have some time to play with the images and write... 1) Dismount the inner sheetmetal window frame from the front door 2) Dismount the vent window from the sheetmetal frame: - 1st undo the nut on the lower pivot, take out washers & loading spring -the upper pivot support plate is held by two phillips screws (see below pic.), remove the tiny plate and you can lift off the vent window by pulling it in and up. 3) The most difficult single task is to remove the old glass from the chrome trim. One must pay attention not to bend or scratch the trim. I did this by holding the glass between two plywood pieces with a clamp. Then careafully pulling the trim and helping by hitting with wooden mallet and wood stick the front bend from inside. Unfortunately I do not have a pic of this (had no time to take the camera while doing it...) For the assembly of the glass you need to make a simple plywood jig. Actually making the jig is the thing to do before removing the old glass in order to get the shape right. Use the vent window to draw the contour to piece of plywood, cut with jigsaw and then glue & secure with screws on a bigger plywood piece. You need to do grooves for pivot shafts and a hole for the lock handle to go throught the plate. 4) The driver side weatherstrip was spoiled, thus I cut a strip of rubber from an old inner tube. The thickness should be ca. 2mm (ca. 4/5"). Lubricate the rubber by soap or car wax to ease the glass in. 5) You insert the trim in to the jig and the rubber in to the trim and push the glass in. a Straight edge piece of wood behind the long back edge of the glass. 6) Last thing to do: Trim the rubber along the edge of the chrome trim with a sharp carped cutter. Quote
greg g Posted January 20, 2008 Report Posted January 20, 2008 If you haven't reassembled the window frames back in the doors yet, here is an additional step you might want to consider. On the nuts that are on the pivot post with the spring on them, put some thread locker on or change the nuts to a locknut style. Both my vent wings loosened up after 5 years and were flopping in the breeze this summer. I removed the garnish thinking I would have to go fishing for the nuts in the bottom of the doors. Luckily they had only backed off and not fallen off. I replaced both with NYLOCK fasteners. and adjusted the spring pressure to where I felt comfortable wit the vent operation vs its ability to resist wind pressure. Hopefully I won't need to think about them again. Quote
John Mulders Posted January 20, 2008 Report Posted January 20, 2008 Looks good to me, nice job. John Quote
Ed Griffin Posted January 20, 2008 Report Posted January 20, 2008 Thanks for sharing how you did this. Good to know for reassembly of the glass. Those inner tubes have 101 different uses, come in handy for various things. I wanted to see how it went for you when it came to to put the window back in because I think originally the top pivot bracket was reveted in the same way the bottom bracket is. Luckily someone has replaced them with phillips head screws for you in the past. Mine still had the revets and I was curious if you would have to pull on the inside garnish moulding like I did to get the top pivot to go back in. Pulling on it didnt disfigure the moulding frame but it wasn't the best way to go. Having the screws is much better. I put a little dab of bearing grease in the top pivot too just for general purposes, cant hurt. Once again, thank you for the great pictures with the jig idea. Quote
Normspeed Posted January 20, 2008 Report Posted January 20, 2008 Nice work, and thanks for the photos. I need to get after mine soon and this will help. Quote
Uncle-Pekka Posted January 21, 2008 Author Report Posted January 21, 2008 Thanks for Thanking me, all! Feels good if I can contribute some as well, because I have got loads of useful information and help always when needed at this forum. The removal/installation process of the vent window assembly is also described at page 198 of the D19/D22/D24 shop manual by Chrysler Corp. (the copies are available by several sellers at eBay,227 pages, price ca. $20, highly recommended! - I bought mine from Bishko books via eBay http://cgi.ebay.ca/1941-1942-1946-1947-1948-Dodge-Shop-Manual_W0QQitemZ300190870047QQihZ020QQcategoryZ34218QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) However, the vent glass removal/mounting job is not explained there. -pekka Quote
David Maxwell Posted January 21, 2008 Report Posted January 21, 2008 I remember doing mine pretty well, but a friend is doing his this week and your directions and photos will be extremely useful!! Thanks!!!! Quote
Uncle-Pekka Posted February 26, 2009 Author Report Posted February 26, 2009 Joe Flanagan asked about replacing vent window trim or glass a couple of months ago. .. I remember giving a link to this post, but did not check the original posting at that time. Now I found, that all the picture links were bad. I suppose ImageShack had removed my original uploads from their server(?). Well, today I did refresh the pictures from my PC hard disk. Sorry for the "communication breakdown". /Pekka Quote
Joe Flanagan Posted February 26, 2009 Report Posted February 26, 2009 Uncle, I was waiting for you to post those pictures. Really great information. I'll be referring to it when I put my glass back in. Quote
Uncle-Pekka Posted February 26, 2009 Author Report Posted February 26, 2009 Ok Joe, You should have asked me to hurry up However, please feel free to ask for details any time. /Pekka Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted February 26, 2009 Report Posted February 26, 2009 though it appears you can use the inner tube, glass setting tape is designed to seal and set the glass all at the same time...just cut to length..fold over glass, moisten with mineral spirits to lube and activate the glue and push in place...sets up very quick, withing minutes and will last till next time you wish to sandblast brames or replace a busted glass..very inexpensive also..ghould be able to get it from any glazer... Quote
Don Jordan Posted February 27, 2009 Report Posted February 27, 2009 Okay this might seem like a silly question but are all the frames chrome? I've been trying to restore a pair and they were painted. I sanded the paint off and it's just metal. I had planned to paint them black. great idea on the inner tube - remember the days when you could get a tube in your tire? (and retreads)? I guess I'll have to use a bicycle tube - that should work. is there a way to find a thread on this forum? By time time I get to my window this thread will have moved - I'm sure there is a way but I've not learned to navigate this forum as well as I should. Quote
Joe Flanagan Posted February 27, 2009 Report Posted February 27, 2009 The frames on my 49 are metal painted black from the factory. Quote
randroid Posted February 27, 2009 Report Posted February 27, 2009 Unkka Thanks very much for posting a detailed yet simple method of replacing the glass. Evidently many of us will be able to put your technique to good use. -Randy (PS - Are you aware that Donald Duck's nephews called him 'Unkka Donald"?) Quote
Don Jordan Posted February 28, 2009 Report Posted February 28, 2009 Thank you for the info... what I usually do is forget where I saw the instructions and never get the information. Today I printed out what you wrote so I can put it in a safe place so I won't be able to find it when I'm ready to put the glass in. Quote
Jim Yergin Posted February 28, 2009 Report Posted February 28, 2009 Today I printed out what you wrote so I can put it in a safe place so I won't be able to find it when I'm ready to put the glass in. Don, How true! Not only for instructions but also parts, like the turn signal light for Ed. Jim Yergin Quote
Uncle-Pekka Posted February 28, 2009 Author Report Posted February 28, 2009 (PS - Are you aware that Donald Duck's nephews called him 'Unkka Donald"?) Well, yes... (This is going far off-topic, but whatta h...) Actually I am life-long fan of Carl Bark's Donald Duck stories and when I changed my nickname to Uncle-P., Unkka-Don was exactly what inspired me into that name. If there would be avatars at this forum, mine could be Donald in the old 313... I also share many of Donalds characteristics, such as high intelligence and patience, not to mention handsome looks. Yours, Unkka Quote
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