Fender fitment

[dgrinnan]

when I bought my truck the restoration was well underway.  All new sheet metal.  I am pretty sure the fit between the cab and fender is not right.  It is like this on both sides.  Does anyhone know where I need to make adjustment to pull it in closer to the cab.  If you look at the pictures you can see it is in close at the bottom next to the running board but up top it is 1/2 to 3/4 inches out.  Should I shim under the running board on top the support bracket at the front edge to "roll" the fender back toward the cab?  Are there adjustments someplace else where the fender bolts on?

[Young Ed]

There is a large rubber piece that should fill most of that in. The bad part is it gets riveted to the fender lip so the only way to install it is with fender off the truck. 

[lostviking]

Explains why the PO of my truck drilled holes in the cab and use about #10 screws...the holes were already in the fenders. Cool. I did a trial fit with the new rubber, it fills the gap very nicely. Does it follow that little wiggle in the fender near the top in the first picture, just before the fender gets flat. I have the welting material for there. 

[Young Ed]

1 hour ago, lostviking said:

Explains why the PO of my truck drilled holes in the cab and use about #10 screws...the holes were already in the fenders. Cool. I did a trial fit with the new rubber, it fills the gap very nicely. Does it follow that little wiggle in the fender near the top in the first picture, just before the fender gets flat. I have the welting material for there. 

I put mine up past the little wiggle and now the hood hits it. I plan to leave the part on the side and cut the top off. Not sure what is factory for that spot

[dgrinnan]

I knew there is welting that is supposed to go in there but I was not sure if it would fill up that large of a gap. 

[Young Ed]

54 minutes ago, dgrinnan said:

I knew there is welting that is supposed to go in there but I was not sure if it would fill up that large of a gap. 

This is a lot thicker than the normal welting.  

[dgrinnan]

That is what I thought, also, it fits close at the bottom next to the running board and the gap widens at the top. 

[lostviking]

Same with mine. I'm repairing a catastrophe, do I wasn't sure if I got the edge shaped correctly or not. Seeing yours lets me know mine is OK again. The rubber that goes in the lower area, like Young Ed pointed out is very thick, so it should fill the gap. I also think my hood would hit if I put it all the way up in the "wiggle area". I'm glad Y.E. was able to confirm. I'll do a bit of trimming when I put it back on the truck. I'm waiting for the welting to get here from Roberts.

 

 

[47 dodge 1.5 ton]

The welting only goes on the front section of the fender up to where there is an angle. The rubber fits up to the back of the hood bottom. 

[dgrinnan]

The welting is not thick.  Here is a picture from DCM of the welting.  The piece between the fender and cab is very thin.  It does have a bead at the top but the it the exposed piece.  I need to find a picture of a completed install. 

[Young Ed]

That is normal fender filler but not what is used for the back of the fenders. Look for fender filler. Should be a thicker piece kinda shaped like a check mark with the shorter edge going on top of the fender. 

 

 

 

[dgrinnan]

Thanks.  Based on the description the 1/2 - 3/4 inch gap is normal.  Here is the part description from DCM.

 

 

This is the front fender fillers used to fill the gap between the cowl and fender area. This gap maybe from 1/2'' to 3/4'' of an inch. This is a formed rubber filler that is shaped to seal and close the gap. This part was mounted to the fender. Used on all trucks 1/2 ton through 2 ton . Also Flat fender Power wagons . The fillers are sold as pairs and are 30'' each in length.

[lostviking]

I got my "fender welt" from Roberts today, and it is not what I was expecting. I'm hoping someone can comment. What I got is a cloth backed vinyl material sewn around a white nylon tubing. I was expecting rubber.

 

Does anyone have more information on this material. Is this actually the correct part? Front fender to hood area. I again was expecting a flat rubber with a bead along the top.

 

Thanks.

[Young Ed]

That sounds more like you got windlace. 

[lostviking]

Roberts shows this as the "original style" fender welting. I checked a number of other sources and all the pictures show what I got. I think they are all using the same picture actually. I then checked the history of this item, and it seems Dodge originally used a pure cloth material, but later changed the vinyl because of water getting trapped in the cloth.

 

I guess it's the right stuff after all. Thanks for responding though Y.E.

 

Here is a link to the image, that's what I received.

 

[PT81PlymouthPickup]

Here's a shot of what it looks like

[PT Moe]

The picture PT81 shows is what your looking for. That small welt stuff is for the front against the lower nose section and the rear fenders. 

https://dcmclassics.com/dust-and-air-seals/232-rw-100-front-fender-filler-39-47.html

https://vicsdodgegarage.com/product/34-47-dodge-r-l-fender-to-cab-seal/

https://vicsdodgegarage.com/product/34-47-dodge-r-l-fender-to-cab-seal-rivets-10-each/

Roberts picture isn't real clear.

https://www.robertsmotorparts.com/fender-filler-dodge-truck-1939-1947-trucks-1-ton-and-under-need-1-trucks-1-12-ton-and-larger-will-require-2-1

[dgrinnan]

PT81, that picture is exactly what I needed.  Worth a thousand words.