Normspeed Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 From some earlier posts, I gather that domestic Dodges went to the 230 motor in 1942 while Plymouth held out until late 1954. Do I have the Dodge info correct? Overall, speaking of American Dodges, was the 1942 and up 230 the small block variety like the 54 Plymouth block? I know a guy with a 47 Dodge motor, fluid drive, and other bits and pieces for sale. Just wondering if that motor might be worth grabbing for a future project. I would not be using the fluid drive, I would bolt up a 3 speed. I have a 53 Plymouth bellhousing and flywheel in the parts pile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 yes..should be the 23 inch motor...difference is the stroke... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james curl Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 It is totally interchangable including the head. You can install the 218 head on the 230 and I have heard that it will raise the compression ratio because it has smaller combustion chambers. 42 was the first year of the 230 for Dodge, I have a 41 Dodge in my 48 Plymouth and it is a 218 cu in engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobT-47P15 Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 I have had a couple Dodge flatheads in 47 Plymouths.....yes they go right in. The only difference is Plym had studs on rear end of the crankshaft, Dodge has holes for fluid drive. So, you use nuts and bolts to put Plym flywheel on Dodge engine. Or, at least that's what my mechanics did in the past. I have a 57 Plym engine currently with a 50 Dodge head. Don't know if that upped anything or not, but it WILL work. (for whatever that info is worth) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtfercomfort Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 There may be an extra hole in the rear seal area too, perhaps? I seem to remember board members having to JB Weld a hole shut - fluid drive shared motor oil? (May be mis-remembring). Even if so it's a minor fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey beard Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Dodge trucks unto the fifties still used 218's. Not sure why the cars used 230 engines and not the trucks, but it seems to be so. JMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55 Fargo Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 In Canada the Fargo trucks were on the 230 ci 25 inch block, in 1955 they switched to a 251, I happen also have one of these, I do own a 1955 Fargo 1/2 ton frame, complete with running engine, clutch,trans rear end, and fron end is till intact. I am wondering if I should try and find a body for it, maybe a nice future project, would a Dodge body fit on the Fargo frame..........Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertKB Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Fred, Fargo was just a rebadged Dodge so a Dodge body should fit. It's the same kind of deal with the Canadian Dodge just being a rebadged Plymouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splat1955 Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Hey Norm, is that the guy we were talking about? With the parts? Just wonderin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normspeed Posted October 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Yeah Brian, that would be Wesley. Darn it, the last thing I need is more stuff to store and move and spend money on though. Temptation again:) We'll try to hook up soon. For the other forum folks, this is a friend of splat55's. He has a 47 Dodge engine, fluid drive, driveshaft, complete rear end with brakes and rims, also a heater and a radio. All came out of a running car. He's cleaning out his storage and looking to sell the stuff. The kicker is, he lives right here in Glendora! I'm almost afraid to go look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47heaven Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 My engine is a mix match now. I have a 1949 Dodge 230 block with a 1955 Plymouth crank, 1955 Plymouth head and a 1952 OD transmission. So much for original P15...LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobT-47P15 Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Yeah......but to an observer, it LOOKS original. Ya don't have to tell 'em any different. Like my 57 Plym engine with 50 Dodge head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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