garyp Posted December 26, 2018 Report Posted December 26, 2018 Got a new headliner for my birthday from WLS and it has 4 bows that come out and 2 stationary in the back there is a masionate type piece that goes around the rear window down to the back of the shelf but my manual says nothing about this piece and that is where the headliner fastens just above the rear window I am going to try and do it like originally done but am not sure why my manual says nothing about this any advice would be appreciated. Thanks Gary Quote
brian b Posted December 28, 2018 Report Posted December 28, 2018 Gary, Sorry I can't really help, my 39 has the original headliner, and so far I haven't messed with it...........yet. Who is WLS? If the price is reasonable I wouldn't mind changing mine, as it seems the logical starting point to spiff up the interior. Somewhere I read that when changing a headliner, start in the middle bows, and work to the front and back. I've also heard to wet the headliner and stretch into place, and when it dries it shrinks tight. I mention this, but I don't know if I would try it. happy new year to everyone on the list, brian b Quote
garyp Posted December 28, 2018 Author Report Posted December 28, 2018 They are in Georgia and specialize in headliners in old cars made mine up and it is beautiful you can get the headliner and the matching windlace 25 feet and had my sunvisors recovered plus got an extra 1 1/2 yards of material for $229.35. I chose the color beechwood and it is just like the original color very nice and great to deal with use my name and let them know how many bowes there I told them 5 but there are only 4 but there is a stationary one in the back so I think I will be OK will keep you posted on my progress just let me know if you have a that masonary piece back by the window. WLS headliners Hazlehurst GA 912-375-5292 check out their website good luck. Gary Quote
desoto1939 Posted December 28, 2018 Report Posted December 28, 2018 Gary: the Masonite piece might be a tacking strip to tack the headliner material around the window. The metal inside garnish molding then would cover the tacks. Also there will be severalmetal pieces that has saw tooth to push the headliner up against to hold it into position alsong the sides. I helped my painter install the headline in my 39 desoto but that was in 1996 use flat wide putty knifes to push the material into the frames. Rich Hartung desoto1939@aol.com Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted December 28, 2018 Report Posted December 28, 2018 the tacking strip are compressed paper material....it will easily bend and curve to go within the channel that it needs to fit...you will find that there are locking metal tabs to hold this material into place. Lift these to remove you damage original material and bend back down when finished. While the putty knives are good for tucking and what I use also....DO BE SURE TO DULL the blades and ensure that the corners are also rounded and not sharp in any manner..A nice layer or two of duct tape also will provide a nice safety edge to work with..... As for WLS.....I have been to his shop in person....family business....do be sure you understand that the man uses the current foam backed material for his headliners...and that he sews with catgut....not thread.....he will custom sew with your supplied suitable fabric...but the cost is still the same.....? Quote
garyp Posted December 29, 2018 Author Report Posted December 29, 2018 Thanks for all the good info as usual I am going to take a picture of the masonite type piece I am talking about it has got me baffeled . Quote
Eneto-55 Posted December 29, 2018 Report Posted December 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Plymouthy Adams said: ...and that he sews with catgut....not thread.....? Now I'm curious - wondering how many cats it takes for one headliner. 1 Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted December 29, 2018 Report Posted December 29, 2018 not enough...still too many cats out there running around..... 3 Quote
Dbolter Posted January 6, 2019 Report Posted January 6, 2019 My '38 had the masonite stuff in it .... Plymouth Adams explains it well. Mine was all the way around rear of the doors. Gives you something to nail into to keep your headliner taught...~d thanks for the headliner source! Quote
Dbolter Posted March 3, 2019 Report Posted March 3, 2019 Howdy all, I am Shopping for a headliner for my '38 chrysler... I talked to WLS, but he said he won't do a vinyl one witch is what I want. Does anyone have a source that can do vinyl headliners?/? Thx ~d Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted March 3, 2019 Report Posted March 3, 2019 when you start asking for special material considerations, you automatically have moved it to your own shop or a local trimmer willing to work within your specifications.....if you do not know any trimmers in your area, ask some of the local car club members or enthusiasts in your area as to what shop they may recommend. Quote
desoto1939 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Posted March 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Dbolter said: Howdy all, I am Shopping for a headliner for my '38 chrysler... I talked to WLS, but he said he won't do a vinyl one witch is what I want. Does anyone have a source that can do vinyl headliners?/? Thx ~d Why do you want a vinyl headliner? The originals were a felt like nap material. If you want to keep original looking then go with the correct headliner. The vinyl will look out of place and the 38 Chrysler cloth headliners can be purcashed very easily. I have a 39 desoto with a cloth replacement and it looks period correct. Just asking, its your car. Rich Hartung Quote
Dbolter Posted March 4, 2019 Report Posted March 4, 2019 Hey Rich, Not sure how to explain it.... I'm just not a fan of the "mohair" felt material.... not sure why, but I have never liked it.... don't get me wrong I am very traditional and most of my car stuff is pretty much stock .... nothing crazy.... right now my '38 is missing the headliner and has the felt nap seat cover and door panels... the rumble seat is vinyl and does not feel out of place with the car to me....I just know I will enjoy vinyl/leather interior more.... I will update here with pic's of my progress .... looks like lebaron bonney may be able to set me up.... anybody ever been? regards ~d Quote
Dbolter Posted March 4, 2019 Report Posted March 4, 2019 I think this is a buick, but vinyl leather does not feel out of place on a 30's rig... Quote
desoto1939 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Posted March 4, 2019 Ok get your replay so If you could get a 38 cloth replacement headliner then you should beable to duplicate a copy in vinyl to fit your car or you might have to go to an upohslerty guy to have a custom headliner made for you. Rich Hartung Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted March 4, 2019 Report Posted March 4, 2019 some trimmers will not work a headliner in vinyl due to the fact it does not have as "forgiving" stretch qualities in all directions as does cloth.....some will not sew a tweed either for similar reasons.....carry a sample of your fabric wo the trimmer or as him what he would recommend or normally uses in his trade. Quote
Eneto-55 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Posted March 5, 2019 A lighter weight vinyl might stretch OK. My 72 Dodge Coronet had a thin vinyl headliner, and I replaced it because it was badly damaged from a former owner's smoking habit. I was able to find the exact same fabric, and my Mom did the sewing for me, then I put it in. (Not sure how much, but I still have what was left from that roll.) It was a light tan color, and had small holes in a grid pattern. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted March 5, 2019 Report Posted March 5, 2019 32 minutes ago, Eneto-55 said: A lighter weight vinyl might stretch OK. My 72 Dodge Coronet had a thin vinyl headliner, and I replaced it because it was badly damaged from a former owner's smoking habit. I was able to find the exact same fabric, and my Mom did the sewing for me, then I put it in. (Not sure how much, but I still have what was left from that roll.) It was a light tan color, and had small holes in a grid pattern. most vinyl headliners were made of perforated vinyl material that aided in stretch in all directions... Quote
Robert Horne Posted March 6, 2019 Report Posted March 6, 2019 I bought my headliner for my 38 Coupe from Kmart. It is a large blanket. These are two layers sewn together, with the rows about 3 inchs apart. I stretched it a little each day and clamped until it was very tight before attaching it. It still looks great. Quote
Dbolter Posted March 6, 2019 Report Posted March 6, 2019 Thats Awesome! My headliner was gone when I purchased my '38 Chrysler coupe but it came with 7 bowes... looks like yours has 5 now I'm wondering if I got two extra! any tips on what order they go in as they are all slightly different lengths. If I remember right mine may even have numbers on them?/? Thx ~d Quote
48ply1stcar Posted March 8, 2019 Report Posted March 8, 2019 I am very happy with my WLS headliner. This the only one I have ever done and I am pleased with the result. Quote
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