bifford Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 I am resto modding a 49 Panel Dodge B1 and wanted to know how to identify it. I have no ownership (Ontario Canada) and need to know where the VIN identification is. I see a small one on the firewall in front of the drivers side and thats it, nothing on the doors or anything, any help appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggdad1951 Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 the tag you are really looking for should be on the drivers A pillar. That will have the info you need. If it's missing then I don't know how else to find that info. The one on the firewall is not the VIN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBNeal Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) additional information - Dodge Truck Registry Serial Number Decoder more additional information - Frame Serial Number Location Edited October 19, 2019 by JBNeal revised link 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggdad1951 Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 21 hours ago, JBNeal said: additional information more additional information Is the frame number the same as the VIN tag number on the A pillar? Part of me thinks it's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBNeal Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 standardized VINs did not appear until the late 60s...serial numbers were stamped on the frame and ID tag located between the driver door hinges...the cab number was stamped on a tag located on the firewall...the ID tag included the model designation, serial number, and HP ratings, but nothing about trim package, transmissions, etc that would be deciphered from a VIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggdad1951 Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 27 minutes ago, JBNeal said: standardized VINs did not appear until the late 60s...serial numbers were stamped on the frame and ID tag located between the driver door hinges...the cab number was stamped on a tag located on the firewall...the ID tag included the model designation, serial number, and HP ratings, but nothing about trim package, transmissions, etc that would be deciphered from a VIN huh, I always thought the frame number was different that the serial number (VIN for easiness sake). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBNeal Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 VINs were established to clarify country of origin, manufacturer, powertrain, year of manufacture etc with the last 6 digits being vehicle serial number...VINs were not used prior to the late 60s, but data plates that contained manufacturer specific codes for powertrain, trim, paint etc as well as serial numbers were used...these trucks had a serial number and a model designation, if ya wanted more info you would have to get a build card...and for quite a few states, when assigning VINs became mandatory, these old trucks were assigned their engine number, not the serial number, so the VIN on the title could possibly not be found on the truck at all if the engine is swapped out...my '48 title has a T142 engine number, but the truck has had a Plymouth engine in it since '68 or so...so VIN kinda muddies up the water a bit whereas serial number is definitive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg g Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 Frame number usually reflect the original engine number. The serial number is what Chrysler Corp uses to identify a completed assembled vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merle Coggins Posted May 26, 2017 Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 The number stamped on the frame of the trucks is the chassis serial number, not the engine number like on the cars. If you can find the number stamped on the left front frame it should be the same as what would be on the vehicle ID tag that would be on the A pillar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggdad1951 Posted May 26, 2017 Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 now I gotta go find the picture I took of my frame number and compare it to my A pillar tag...thanks...sigh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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