DJ194950 Posted October 29, 2016 Report Posted October 29, 2016 Does your repair manual brake section have a paragraph and several pictures covering brake shoe Alignment? My Plymouth 49-50 does but not sure what is different or what is the same as your car. If not I could try to post or PM the pages for you. My 50 had issues with inner flat edges of the cam pin where worn at a angle and needed to be dressed flat again with a file. Did you put a very small amount of lubricant on the clip type springs and cam surfaces to the shoes to prevent squeaks? The manual says to do that. Make sure the springs that go shoe to shoe for retraction are mounted with the spring riding to the outside of the shoes. I put one side with on the shoes with the spring inside and it hit the wheel cylinder. Some possibilities? DJ Quote
Jipjob Posted October 29, 2016 Author Report Posted October 29, 2016 This is the observation that I observed after using a light spray on talcom powered to check shoe brakes on frount passenger side. I sprayed the drum with the powder and proceeded to install the hub over the shoes and adjust the minor setting to make contact of shoes to brake drum. After I completed that operation I spun the brake drum and removed the hub. Upon removal of the drum the shoes showed greatcontact except on both s bottom edges and the contact area showed contact but on the inward side about haft across booth shoes the was no contact material and that ran about 1 -1/2 on the inside of the shoe at and angle to the inside of the shoe on both sides. Any ideas about why this is happening? I will take a picture this afternoon and put it up on this site of shoe contact. Jon Quote
Jipjob Posted October 29, 2016 Author Report Posted October 29, 2016 Bleed brakes and they are back to factory settings. Crossing fingers that all this stuff that I did the last few days works. Jon 1 Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted October 29, 2016 Report Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jipjob said: This is the observation that I observed after using a light spray on talcom powered to check shoe brakes on frount passenger side. I sprayed the drum with the powder and proceeded to install the hub over the shoes and adjust the minor setting to make contact of shoes to brake drum. After I completed that operation I spun the brake drum and removed the hub. Upon removal of the drum the shoes showed greatcontact except on both s bottom edges and the contact area showed contact but on the inward side about haft across booth shoes the was no contact material and that ran about 1 -1/2 on the inside of the shoe at and angle to the inside of the shoe on both sides. Any ideas about why this is happening? I will take a picture this afternoon and put it up on this site of shoe contact. Jon 11 minutes ago, Jipjob said: Bleed brakes and they are back to factory settings. Crossing fingers that all this stuff that I did the last few days works. Jon I see both your shoes and the wife's shoes making contact with the pavement but I must confess this was not the picture I thought was going to be posted relating to the problems you were having... Edited October 29, 2016 by Plymouthy Adams 2 Quote
Jipjob Posted October 29, 2016 Author Report Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) Thought I might just get away from my old Dodge and show you guys my first car the model A Ford Roadster! Yes that me on my future first car in high school. To one cool 1960 Catalina Pontiac and my big toy my 78 Bluebird Motor home! Oh that house was built in 1898 and that where I grew up and I own that also. Kind of like old things. Jon Edited October 29, 2016 by Jipjob 1 Quote
Jipjob Posted October 29, 2016 Author Report Posted October 29, 2016 Here is the photo of the shoe wear! Not what I would like to have and wondering why it makes the contact like it does? Quote
Jipjob Posted October 29, 2016 Author Report Posted October 29, 2016 Adam here are two proper shoes! Above Quote
desoto1939 Posted October 30, 2016 Report Posted October 30, 2016 is there any possibility that the shoe the metal part of the shoes are bent and or the backing plate is bend? Rich Hartung Quote
Jipjob Posted October 31, 2016 Author Report Posted October 31, 2016 What would I use to check to the backing plate to see if it was bent? I swapped out the left side drum today just to see if that could make a difference but no headway. Took the car out but I still feel uncomfortable with this brake issue. How do I cheek the brake shoe to check to see if there bent. Thanks I really appreciate any and all answers. Quote
_shel_ny Posted October 31, 2016 Report Posted October 31, 2016 Post 19, pic 3 shows checking shoe on a flat surface. 2 Quote
Jipjob Posted November 9, 2016 Author Report Posted November 9, 2016 Just want to say thank you for all the help I have gotten with my old Dodge. I finally got my brakes up to par with a special tool I used to get the major adjustment right and used the spray talcum for contact of brake shoes. Lots of time and gray matter. Thanks again-jon Quote
desoto1939 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 8 hours ago, Jipjob said: Just want to say thank you for all the help I have gotten with my old Dodge. I finally got my brakes up to par with a special tool I used to get the major adjustment right and used the spray talcum for contact of brake shoes. Lots of time and gray matter. Thanks again-jon Jipjob: we all now are assuming that you used the ammco brake gage to set the shoe adjustment. But why was the shoe wearing on an edge or was it because the shoe was not adjusted properly with the toe and heel adjustments. Were the shoe no properly seated on the backing plates, please lets us know what you did. The Ammco tool or miller brake tool is so importamt to getting good brakes with these older cars. Just curious as to what you did to solve the issue. This is why I loan out the Ammco brake tool. Rich Hartung desoto1939@aol.com Quote
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