TodFitch Posted July 20, 2015 Report Posted July 20, 2015 Unbolted the rear main cap. Cap is loose and freely moves, but no matter what I try, I can't get it out of the engine. It has a lip on it that protrudes into the bell housing, and will not clear the bell housing even if I rotate the crank. Now what? On my Plymouth the bottom half of the bell housing is removable. . . I would have expected that to be true on your car. Quote
Lloyd Posted July 20, 2015 Report Posted July 20, 2015 I guess Im lost here, rear main bearing cap lip protrudes into the bell housing? The bell housing goes around the outside of the engine just to the bottom of the block. There is an inspection cover that bolts to the bottom half. Once the oil pan and inspection cover is dropped there is nothing holding the cap up but 2 bolts. There is a rear seal bracket as I recall but it is 2 piece and the bottom half bolts to the cap, the bottom half should come off with the cap - if I remember correctly. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted July 21, 2015 Report Posted July 21, 2015 Remove the lower bell housing cover and tin dust cover plate. Remove main cap. Quote
bighammer48 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Posted July 27, 2015 I finally got the rear main cap out of the car. The seal is a "groove" seal, i.e., it is pressed into the groove on the cap. Now all I have to do is figure the right seal # and get one! Thanks guys for your help! Quote
Don Coatney Posted July 27, 2015 Report Posted July 27, 2015 I have never seen a rear main seal that is pressed in. It should spin out of the cap and the upper portion should also spin out. Quote
bighammer48 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Posted July 27, 2015 Sorry. It's not pressed as in hydraulicly pressed, but force-fit. It looks like the top picture. Quote
bighammer48 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Posted July 27, 2015 Pictures are a big help. Thanks. The instuctions are pretty clear for removing the top half. Do you have detailed instructions for installing the top half? Quote
bighammer48 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Posted July 27, 2015 One more question : I have the Felpro(OS915C) oil pan gasket set. It contains 2 neoprene "pins" about 1/8 inch diameter, and about 1 inch long. Where do they go? Quote
Don Coatney Posted July 27, 2015 Report Posted July 27, 2015 This is more on the rear main seal. Quote
Lloyd Posted July 27, 2015 Report Posted July 27, 2015 One more question : I have the Felpro(OS915C) oil pan gasket set. It contains 2 neoprene "pins" about 1/8 inch diameter, and about 1 inch long. Where do they go? Look on the bottom - mating surface - of the dust cover. The half moon shaped bracket at the rear of the main bearing cap. Quote
stan's52 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Posted July 27, 2015 Sounds to me like the seal guy didn't put things back on the tranny correctly, when it was removed, and replaced. To replace the seal. Talk about bad luck. Stan Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted July 27, 2015 Report Posted July 27, 2015 Those two 1/8" rubber round seal pins go in slots in the aluminum plate at the front of the engine. The large curved section of the oil pan seals against it. You cannot install these two seals unless the timing cover is removed for access to one of the bolts that retains this aluminum plate. Bob Quote
doctor dirt Posted July 29, 2015 Author Report Posted July 29, 2015 Well here I go again..........................Rear Main has held, the front seal looked good for a short ride! Then the tranny started leaking like a "shower"! The tranny has been pulled and send back to the tranny garage to be "inspected". Once again I can't find reputable men who take responsibility for their positive & negative out comes. This will be my last "old car" and I will get it fixed correctly but my area is void of mechanics who are capable and responsible. Glad to see bighammer making progress! Tranny is going back to Sarasota as I type. Oh well it is POURING in Sw Fla. for the past week so the weather is perfect for an old car to be down! Doc. Quote
bighammer48 Posted July 29, 2015 Report Posted July 29, 2015 All I need now is to find someone who has the seal at a "reasonable" price! LOL Quote
Don Coatney Posted July 29, 2015 Report Posted July 29, 2015 Well here I go again..........................Rear Main has held, the front seal looked good for a short ride! Then the tranny started leaking like a "shower"! The tranny has been pulled and send back to the tranny garage to be "inspected". Once again I can't find reputable men who take responsibility for their positive & negative out comes. This will be my last "old car" and I will get it fixed correctly but my area is void of mechanics who are capable and responsible. Glad to see bighammer making progress! Tranny is going back to Sarasota as I type. Oh well it is POURING in Sw Fla. for the past week so the weather is perfect for an old car to be down! Doc. Transmission leaking front or back? Was it overfilled? Did you or who ever does the work on your car install a gasket between the transmission and bell housing? Quote
doctor dirt Posted July 30, 2015 Author Report Posted July 30, 2015 Don the shop that did the work has been in business for over 35 years, I guess experience isn't what it used to be. The tranny was removed at the shop who did the seals and was picked up by the tranny shop yesterday. The shops are about 35 miles apart I will pass your questions along to the tranny shop owner. thanx Doc Quote
doctor dirt Posted July 30, 2015 Author Report Posted July 30, 2015 Talked to the tranny man a few minutes ago, he will be benching it this afternoon. He told me a gasket was set between the bell housing & tranny and he thinks its leaking from the front but thats a guess until he goes over it! Doc. Quote
doctor dirt Posted July 31, 2015 Author Report Posted July 31, 2015 Tranny is returning today ...................there was a "passage" that needed to have "grease" flow (his term) I know they won't get it together today and if I get involved I will get into trouble so Monday will be another day. Trouble used to be fun! Doc. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 Hmmmmm... Grease flow...Odd answer. They made up gaskets that blocked oil flow. 1 Quote
bighammer48 Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) Found my seal! Best 3675. Perfect! Edited July 31, 2015 by bighammer48 Quote
doctor dirt Posted August 3, 2015 Author Report Posted August 3, 2015 OK just got the call that the coupe is ready! The tranny tech told me that the tranny is the "lesser" "weaker" model from that period. Theres a "hole" that runs from the front to the back of the tranny box that he sealed because the bearing in the 'front is a "closed" situation that doesn't need the grease? Not knowing a thing about trannys has me in a bad situation trying to make sense of this. They ran the car a few times at 25 minure intervals and threre are NO leaks from the rear & front seals along with the tranny. I don't feel relieved or satisfied but theres not much I can do being a green novice with trannys. Its pouring here in SW Fla. (rainy season) but rain or not I'm putting some miles on the car and I'll monitor the fluids and check underneath for puddles unrelated to rain water! I'm hoping for the best, its a nice coupe with nice options and I need to enjoy the ride badly. thanx guys I'll let you know once I know.......Doc. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted August 3, 2015 Report Posted August 3, 2015 That "Tranny Tech" sure sounds like he knows his R-10 OD's! 1 Quote
Dave72dt Posted August 3, 2015 Report Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) bearings can come in a variety of configurations, same basic part number but the prefixes and suffixes can be different. A bearing of that type can be sealed on both sides, meaning you can't see the rollers from either side, and can use a couple different types of seal material, sealed on one side and open on the other, allowing lubricant access to the rollers, or open on both sides. Apparently your tech chose to use one sealed on at least one side so lubricant will not pass through it. If he chose a closed version, probably sealed on both sides and the bearing would be lubed from the factory and does not require trans lube for survival. Edited August 3, 2015 by Dave72dt Quote
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