1949-1950 spotter's guide?

[frankrizzo]

I've wanted a '50 Suburban or fastback for a long time, but I find when looking on line for one that the model number designations are often misused/interchanged.  When I see an ad for a '50 Plymouth and ask the seller if it's a club coupe, business coupe, fastback, sedan, or wagon; I sometimes get responses like "it's a Deluxe" or "it's a p20."  And I hate to sound like a picture-collector asking them again for pictures of the car...

 

From what I've seen on sites like allpar, in 1950 there were two different wheelbase Plymouths.  The 111"wb was available as a business coupe, fastback coupe, and the Suburban.  The 118"wb was the 4 door sedan, the 4 door woodie wagon, the club coupe, and a convertible.  The confusion for me is that apparently most of these bodystyles were available as a Deluxe or Special Deluxe, and some websites say p19 was the short wheelbase and p20 was the long wheelbase without differentiating between the different bodystyles.   I looked at the p15 spotter's guide on the reference part of the forums but it only goes up to 1948...

 

So, is there a definitive list of code/model designations (i.e., p17 is the fastback, p20 is the 4 door sedan, etc) for 1950 (or '49-'50) cars?

Edited March 13, 2015 by frankrizzo

[Plymouthy Adams]

P17 - 1949 :     P19 - 1950 :  P22  - 1951/52  these are the 111 wheelbase designators  however the engines will be stamped for the 118 wheelbase designators

[Young Ed]

You will also run into 1950 being the last year of a woodie station wagon and the second year of the all metal wagon. I believe the metal one would be a p19 and the woodie a p20. I believe your list of model #s correct and the short WB ones are the p19 and the long ones p20.

[BobT-47P15]

I think they are identified with pics & model numbers in the front of the service/repair manual. And...you are finding out people don't really know what they have. Most Plymouths came in the cheaper Deluxe model and the better Special Deluxe.

[RUSTYSNACK]

HMM so my 1950 Plymouth deluxe club coupe is a p19 with 118" wheel base?I'm new to this site as well as MOPAR and this is my first vintage build anyways.I was wondering myself which model code i had and couldn't find a reference on it anywhere that covered 1950+

[Don Coatney]

Rusty, I see you live in Arcade. I lived in Varysburg a few years back. Where did you find your car?

[RUSTYSNACK]

I bought it from a guy that had it sitting in a barn in North Java actually.i have all the paper work on it i dont know how long that guy had it but he said it was all hacked up when he got it..i just posted a few pics of it..actually..I see your in Indiana i have paper work from Indiana or Illinois or Iowa or something like that now that i think about it is it your old car? haha that would be cool..

Edited April 17, 2015 by RUSTYSNACK

[P15-D24]

BTW if anyone is interested in putting together a spotters guide for this series please PM me. You just need to write the source materials and help the the pics, I will do all the web publishing stuff. Any help is really appreciated!