Industrial engine valves in auto engine?

[casper50]

Not smart on engine internals so a question.  Found a set of intake and exhaust valves that are labeled as follows:

 

SET OF SIX INTAKE & EXHAUST VALVES FOR 1942-51 DODGE, PLYMOUTH,   1942-50 CHRYSLER INDUSTRIAL

ENGINES 5,T-112, 6, 1-116 MCQUAY-NORRIS NUMBER V-1335N/V-1334

 

Are these the same as our car engine valves?

[Don Coatney]

I cannot answer your question but new replacement valves known to work can be found at fair prices. I am running valves from a Chevy in my engine.

 

[Plymouthy Adams]

usually the industrial or heavy duty truck are sodium filled valves...for better heat dispersion associated with long time running these engines get per cycle..

[casper50]

So, might help the engine stay minutely cooler?

[Plymouthy Adams]

you can do a read on the internet for sodium filled valves if you are doubting the their build and effectiveness...they still have application on the modern street car...Turbo comes to mind and as does air cooled earlier Porsche engines...I know my Porsches were all sodium filled valves...most cars running on the upper edge of heat and capability of sustained high speed runs still get these valves also...think a bit more exotic design and performance minded car and not that the rolling box of rocks the cars of these pages are.

[casper50]

I'm just trying to find all the parts to rebuild my engine as cheaply but as well as possible.  I will go for quality over cheapness but if I can save a few bucks here and there I can use it elsewhere.  I've found these for $5 each new.

[Plymouthy Adams]

Casper...I can only remark on the fact that they usually get the sodium valves,.and that if these are properly listed the odds are they are sodium...I have not seen the part, box or other specification for the parts you are interested in buying...I agree with your purchasing tactics to spread your dollars more evenly but I am not so sure you can get this answer here.  The box should be marked as sodium content as they come with special handling and disposal warnings.  The intended use of the industrial and ability to displace the heat is one of the main reason for the way they were built and the few special internal components they got when new.  The ind. engine were non vacuum advance engines and sodium valves and usually a governor for long sustained runs and the blocks were same across the borad..so as they have listed the application for Dodge and Plymouth and also the application of Ind...all things being equal..sodium filled valves are a plus.

[casper50]

Thanks PA

[desoto1939]

I just checked my McQuay Norris catalog and I did no9t see this valves listed under the Chrysler and or Ply/Dodge. I do not have any thing on industrial so inmy opinion I would not buy them.j

 

Send me you specific car and engine and year and I might be able to list the intake and Exh value numbers that you will need along with other internals

 

Also if you are rebuilding the engine do not go cheap  this is the heart and sole of the car and if the engine doesnot run then you are going nowhere.

 

Rich Hartung

Desoto1939@aol.com

[desoto1939]

I also just looked in My Egge MAchine Catalog and they list all of the engine components and these valves are not listed.  If you are looking for specif engine parts then Get your hands on an Egge Machine Catalog. Their catalog is a great reference for engine parts and you can use their numbers to get and search for your parts.

 

WWW.EGGE.COM

 

 

r Hartung

Desoto1939@aol.com

[casper50]

Not trying to go cheap as I said i want it done right.  Just trying to save any money I can for other things.  1947 Dodge 230 

[garbagestate 44]

My 47 has an IND 32 (265 cid) from around 1970 which has sodium filled exhaust valves. I bought the motor from a guy who had a pair of them in their original crates. As he explained it, they came with a snow cat that he had bought at a county auction somewhere in New York state. The municipality bought these pieces of equipment and wanted 2 of everything including 2 spare engines. That's how I got mine. The guy wanted the snow cat but not the rest of the stuff that came with it so he listed them on Craigslist. Anyway, these weren't for a stationary application. I would check to make sure that the valve guides are the same for the 2 different valve types. If they are different, you could be opening up a can of worms trying to find the correct ones.

[Mike Petersen]

Egge is the place to go 3 miles from my door. All my parts for my 47 D24's eng. came from them.

[desoto1939]

EGGE valves:  42-48 dodge 6   Exh  S1689  Int  V1690

 

McQuay Norris   42-59   Exh  V1334   Int V1335N  original equipment or    V1581N

 

R Hartung

[casper50]

tks

[austinsailor]

The sodium valves are quite a bit bigger in diameter. I haven't compared the bores in a sodium valve engine with a non sodium engine, but I can if it's important. I'm guessing the blocks are the same but you'd have to bore the guides to fit.

I don't really see a downside to using them. I've bought several sets for around $7 per valve.

There is a guy with numerous sets for sale right now on EBay, $49 + $10 shipping. Search for "Dodge sodium valve"

Edited October 5, 2014 by austinsailor

[Lloyd]

I would not put a lot of stock in saving money. Nothing wrong with trying but I got over 2 grand in my engine, machine work and parts, before I knew what was happening. Hit me like a hammer.

And I aint done yet..