furby714 Posted June 19, 2014 Author Report Posted June 19, 2014 Congrats on the car! I just picked up a 48 Plymouth P15 and am in about the same shoes you are. I am going a little different route than you as far as looks, but we have a very similar starting point. My car has been in a garage for the last 40 years. Nice what route you going with it A buddy has a 48 dodge Quote
USMC1188 Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 Nice what route you going with it A buddy has a 48 dodge I'm thinking a 50's era hot rod. So factory paint, and some pinstriping. The whole car will be clearcoated. The motor will be rebuilt with all the fun goodies, and the entire car will get about a 3 in drop. Just finished painting the wheels today: Quote
furby714 Posted June 19, 2014 Author Report Posted June 19, 2014 Nice nice looking for some wheels for mine as well Quote
USMC1188 Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 Thanks! Those wheels are just the factory wheels that are on the car in my earlier picture. I just cleaned everything up, and repainted. They started looking like this: Quote
furby714 Posted June 19, 2014 Author Report Posted June 19, 2014 I thinking of using those or supremes Quote
furby714 Posted June 22, 2014 Author Report Posted June 22, 2014 Does any one have a tutorial on how to take out the gauges ??? I can't Take m out for some reason Quote
DJ194950 Posted June 23, 2014 Report Posted June 23, 2014 With so many wires and hidden nuts on the gauges and even more for the whole gauge panel- I've have worked this with this twice. I suggest- remove the inner window front frame. Then the 6-8 screws holding the dash to the body on the top edge. Then there are two bolts, one per side at each end at the lower outside flanges to the body. Remove the two bolts under the steer column holding the column to the dash and then the brace from the firewall to the steer column. And finally one last- the support from the cowl vent to the lower edge on the center part of the dash. DAMN! Sounds like a lot but in the long run it's actually the easy way to go! Then the dash can be lowered somewhat and pulled forward and then tilted enough with everything still connected to see and locate ALL the nuts, etc.! All fun? Right?! DJ Quote
furby714 Posted June 23, 2014 Author Report Posted June 23, 2014 With so many wires and hidden nuts on the gauges and even more for the whole gauge panel- I've have worked this with this twice. I suggest- remove the inner window front frame. Then the 6-8 screws holding the dash to the body on the top edge. Then there are two bolts, one per side at each end at the lower outside flanges to the body. Remove the two bolts under the steer column holding the column to the dash and then the brace from the firewall to the steer column. And finally one last- the support from the cowl vent to the lower edge on the center part of the dash. DAMN! Sounds like a lot but in the long run it's actually the easy way to go! Then the dash can be lowered somewhat and pulled forward and then tilted enough with everything still connected to see and locate ALL the nuts, etc.! All fun? Right?! DJ ahh sounds like alot Quote
DJ194950 Posted June 23, 2014 Report Posted June 23, 2014 ya it is! You will learn a lot about the car in the process! Great time to remove the entire dash and rework everything, clean and paint, rewire- (if not into restore add some wire disconnect plugs in the wiring at the dash to body junction) ,(future work if needed will be much easier), check your gauges,etc. Gage panel removal is some different but when out in the open it will show it self- two top mounts are rubber mounts and usually hard as rock!. Your car, your choice. How flexible are you ?. It is Possible to do from behind if your back is tough and have great vision in poor light! Just try to make it an enjoyable Hobby and keep your drive and interest. We need more old Mopars being driven. Best, DJ Quote
furby714 Posted June 24, 2014 Author Report Posted June 24, 2014 ya it is! You will learn a lot about the car in the process! Great time to remove the entire dash and rework everything, clean and paint, rewire- (if not into restore add some wire disconnect plugs in the wiring at the dash to body junction) ,(future work if needed will be much easier), check your gauges,etc. Gage panel removal is some different but when out in the open it will show it self- two top mounts are rubber mounts and usually hard as rock!. Your car, your choice. How flexible are you ?. It is Possible to do from behind if your back is tough and have great vision in poor light! Just try to make it an enjoyable Hobby and keep your drive and interest. We need more old Mopars being driven. Best, DJ yea looks confusing I'll have to play around with it and yes's that's y I wanna get my car running you don't see many around especially in SoCal.Picking up a parts car this weekend hopefully Quote
furby714 Posted October 7, 2014 Author Report Posted October 7, 2014 Havent been here in a wile and i been lagging with my car still havent gotten the engine to turn on Quote
furby714 Posted October 7, 2014 Author Report Posted October 7, 2014 Also have a question would it b impossible to add a 80s elcamino subframe front Quote
james curl Posted October 7, 2014 Report Posted October 7, 2014 I think you might have to narrow it to get rails to align, do a lot of measuring before you even purchase the clip. Quote
furby714 Posted October 7, 2014 Author Report Posted October 7, 2014 I think you might have to narrow it to get rails to align, do a lot of measuring before you even purchase the clip.thanks i think thats what i am going to do the good thing the owner of the clip is my neighbor and he has the whole frame would i be able to use the whole frame ???? Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted October 7, 2014 Report Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) there are clips in the junkyard that are an easier fit and gives you way more better equipment in the process than a El-kajunko will...do a bit of shopping..measure what you have..visit a junkyard with the tape still in hand... as for entire frame swap..you must establish the entire center line and body mounting system onto that frame and keep in mind it is an establish taper, consider this closely if you wish to have a body that is free from stress..the very torque value of the original frame mounts is critical enough for these aligments..no since going to an extreme to do this upgrade...but I also understand that having it next door may be a driving factor...just don't let it be the wrong factor in proper upgrade is all... Edited October 7, 2014 by Plymouthy Adams Quote
james curl Posted October 7, 2014 Report Posted October 7, 2014 I believe it is a perimeter frame and probably much wider than our frames. Although one of our members put his P-15 on a Chevy Impala frame it is not for the faint of heart. You might do a search on the net for a diagram of the El Cameo frame and do a comparison with the P-15 frame.. Quote
Don Coatney Posted October 7, 2014 Report Posted October 7, 2014 Why do you want to do a frame swap? Is there a problem with your original frame? Not to burst your bubble but if you have to ask about doing such a swap it is probably beyond your means. Others without the means or knowledge who have attempted such a project end up scrapping the car. These cars can be very drivable with repairs to the original front suspension. 1 Quote
furby714 Posted October 8, 2014 Author Report Posted October 8, 2014 Thanks for all your help the reason i ak about all this. Is beacause i wanna upgrade front brake and suspension Quote
deathbound Posted October 8, 2014 Report Posted October 8, 2014 Thanks for all your help the reason i ak about all this. Is beacause i wanna upgrade front brake and suspension You can rebuild the front suspension & upgrade to front disc brakes. I did both, mine drives & stops pretty good for a 76 year old car...though not as nice a modern car. Just noticed you're in Stanton.......neighbor. Quote
furby714 Posted October 8, 2014 Author Report Posted October 8, 2014 You can rebuild the front suspension & upgrade to front disc brakes. I did both, mine drives & stops pretty good for a 76 year old car...though not as nice a modern car. Just noticed you're in Stanton.......neighbor. oo ok sounds like something I should do. What kind of front disc brake swap did you use.Yea am close by u maybe sometime in the future could get to meet you and see your rides my name is Jose Quote
casper50 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) I just put a scarebird in mine. No problems at all so far. Edited October 8, 2014 by casper50 Quote
furby714 Posted October 8, 2014 Author Report Posted October 8, 2014 Thanks I just looked at there site there good but are 325 I am going to have to work overtime to get the money for that jhaaha Quote
casper50 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Posted October 8, 2014 I think I came in at about $528 total for the front disc buying all new parts. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted October 8, 2014 Report Posted October 8, 2014 furby714, on 08 Oct 2014 - 05:42 AM, said:Thanks I just looked at there site there good but are 325 I am going to have to work overtime to get the money for that jhaaha If you think 325 is a bad price..just try rebuilding the stock brakes for the same money..you may get 1/2 way there...don't skimp and do thing 1/2 way here, brakes are the #1 safety device on your car...and effectiveness is greatly proportional to the reaction time of the applicator Quote
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