Headliner material on B post

[steveplym]

I received my headliner and extra material from WLS headliners this afternoon.  They have great service and looks to be a real quality product. 

 

Anyway, I'm wondering how the material is installed on the b pillar on my d-24?  I see the windlace attaches to the tack strips, but not sure how the material gets fastened.  Looks like you could glue it, but not sure how that would work exactly.  Headliner and all was out of the car when I got it so I don't have much to go on. 

 

Thanks in advance for any help.  

[desoto1939]

the B piller would not use the headliner material this would be covered with the seat upholstery material. T think they use a cardboard material to hold the material in this section just like on the door panels.

 

Rich Hartung

[Chester Brzostowski]

Steve,

 

Check your messages, I didn't see this post until just now. 1/8" Masonite or 3/16 to 1/4' plywood. What came off my car originally was plywood but I believe it was a little shy of 1/4 inch.

 

Chet...

[Mike Petersen]

Took my 47 D24 apart last summer. Original 1 family car. Same material as headlinner with a 3/16 dense cardbord backing. held on with a nail type fastner that goes between the fabric and cardboard. Go to ebay and type in 1946 Dodge nail it will come up.

[steveplym]

Thanks guys.  Going to tackle headliner install next week. I'll let you know how it goes. 

[steveplym]

Here's an update on my interior install.  Got quite a bit done this week.  I ordered new seat covers from Lebaron Bonney and installed them myself yesterday with hog rings.  The fit pretty good and of good quality. 

 

I got the headliner installed from wls, it wasn't a bad job at all, had a few hiccups, but got them all ironed out. 

 

Carpet and kickpanels were installed and now have to get front seats done and door panels.  Went ahead and painted the dash bright red along with the window frames and sourrounds.  Looks pretty good with the satin black. Ready for this winter weather to stop so I can go cruising again. 

 

Here's a few pics.

 

 

 

 

B Post Panel

 

 

 

 

Link to the album: http://s167.photobucket.com/user/siufan6/library/47%20Dodge%20Interior%20Work

[48ply1stcar]

Very cool.  Thanks for the updates.  I need the inspiration for my car.

Edited March 1, 2014 by 48ply1stcar

[OldDad67]

Here's an update on my interior install.  Got quite a bit done this week.  I ordered new seat covers from Lebaron Bonney and installed them myself yesterday with hog rings.  The fit pretty good and of good quality. 

 

I got the headliner installed from wls, it wasn't a bad job at all, had a few hiccups, but got them all ironed out. 

 

Carpet and kickpanels were installed and now have to get front seats done and door panels.  Went ahead and painted the dash bright red along with the window frames and sourrounds.  Looks pretty good with the satin black. Ready for this winter weather to stop so I can go cruising again. 

 

Here's a few pics.

 

 

 

 

B Post Panel

 

 

 

 

Link to the album: http://s167.photobucket.com/user/siufan6/library/47%20Dodge%20Interior%20Work

Wow nice job, your an insperation. How did you do the "A" piller trim where it meets the headliner? Thanks

[steveplym]

Hey Old Dad.  I actually rolled the headliner from where the front retaining strip ends and stapled it on the back side down the tack strip to the dash.

Rolled it back over and the windshield molding held in that part of the fabric.  It was hard to get that same roll on both sides and keep the molding from pushing it back away from the windlace.  I took a plastic putty knife and poked and pulled until I got all the tacks on the windlace covered.  Tucked the rest south of the molding behind the dash. 

 

The molding actually covered most of that area, except for right between the dash and the molding.  Not exactly sure how it was originally, but this looked good to me.

 

Here is the pic of that area.  As you can see here there isn't much space showing between the molding and the windlace. 

 

Edited March 1, 2014 by steveplym

[OldDad67]

Hey Old Dad.  I actually rolled the headliner from where the front retaining strip ends and stapled it on the back side down the tack strip to the dash.

Rolled it back over and the windshield molding held in that part of the fabric.  It was hard to get that same roll on both sides and keep the molding from pushing it back away from the windlace.  I took a plastic putty knife and poked and pulled until I got all the tacks on the windlace covered.  Tucked the rest south of the molding behind the dash. 

 

The molding actually covered most of that area, except for right between the dash and the molding.  Not exactly sure how it was originally, but this looked good to me.

 

Here is the pic of that area.  As you can see here there isn't much space showing between the molding and the windlace. 

 

Thanks Steve that really looks professional, I'm getting close to installing mine just haven't worked up my courage yet. Thanks again for the pictures and info.

[steveplym]

It really wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.  I used a staple gun for the front tack strip above the windshield and back below the windows. 

 

Just put the windlace on first after removing the retainer strips, then put the strips back on, install bows in the headliner, bows in the roof, tack both ends, push the material up in the retainer strip and trim the extra on the sides once it is lined up.  It goes pretty good, just takes time.

[Chester Brzostowski]

Great Job Steve,

 

The headliner looks really nice.  Much better then mine.  How did you attach it to the front and rear window molding ?

 

Tks, Chet...

[steveplym]

Great Job Steve,

 

The headliner looks really nice.  Much better then mine.  How did you attach it to the front and rear window molding ?

 

Tks, Chet...

 

On the front I folded it over to match the line from the retaining strip down to where it was behind the trim molding. 

I just stapled the inside flap to the tack strip, that hid the tacks and made a nice continuous line down to the trim.

 

On the rear my car had the metal alligator looking tabs that bend over, so I cut around the rear window and attached the liner

to those tabs and bent them over.  Other than that the rest of it was tuck and hide front and rear. 

 

Good things those trim moldings are there.  Not sure how I would make a straight cut.

[OldDad67]

It really wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.  I used a staple gun for the front tack strip above the windshield and back below the windows. 

 

Just put the windlace on first after removing the retainer strips, then put the strips back on, install bows in the headliner, bows in the roof, tack both ends, push the material up in the retainer strip and trim the extra on the sides once it is lined up.  It goes pretty good, just takes time.

Thanks steveplym on the step by step procedure that will really help.

[steveplym]

Got one of the door panels done today.  Three more and front seats recovered and I'm back on the road I hope.  It was almost 75 degrees here today, will be back in the 30's tomorrow.  So ready for spring.

 

[steveplym]

Finished my interior over the weekend. I bought vinyl stair treads for the sill plates/threshold plates. Worked very well and almost looks factory. Cheap alternative to replacement rubber.

[OldDad67]

Finished my interior over the weekend. I bought vinyl stair treads for the sill plates/threshold plates. Worked very well and almost looks factory. Cheap alternative to replacement rubber.

steveplym just wanted to give an update to my headliner installation. Thanks again for your photos and info it really helped on mine. I contacted one of my old Chevy buddies to help me install the headliner, since it involved a Mopar I had to buy him lunch, but it was worth it. And I think it's almost a 2 man job at least when your north of 70. I did pull the dash to get the materal on the "A" pillar behind it and used tacks and cardboard as original. I had put the windlass in previous, then we pulled and tucked the headliner under the tack strips and folded the headliner where it meets the "A" pillar, then installed the garanish moldings. I forgot to mark the holes for the visors, so I took measurements from a friends car. The hard part is over I just need to paint the rear and side moldings. It's my first attempt at headliners and I can see why alot of shops don't want to do them because there's no way to "flatrate" the job, it just takes time. So bottom line is if 2 old Chevy guy's over 70 can install a headliner in a P-15 then Mopar guy's should be able to do it twice as fast and twice as good, right? Not a bad project, but I like mechanical things better. 

[TodFitch]

Looks like it came out great. Congratulations!

[steveplym]

Looks great old dad. I thanked wls several times as they make it so it will it right. You are right though, very time consuming.