Rodney Bullock Posted August 20, 2011 Report Posted August 20, 2011 Ok, so I get back from a real nice country ride. The Plymouth is running like new money. I put it in the garage and I wipe it off. Then about an hour later I go to start it and it will not start. Something tells me to pull the top of the carb off. I do that and right in front of the fuel inlet there is some trash. I remove it and I try to clean the needle and seat. I must have bent something because I took it out for a test ride and now the car has a on and off surge at high speed. The faster it goes the bad it is. You don't feel it when you are going below 30-40 mph. I don't know how to fix it or whats wrong. Can someone tell me what I have done. Do I need a new carb. It seems like the flow of fuel is hurt. Quote
randroid Posted August 20, 2011 Report Posted August 20, 2011 Rodney, My first best guess is that you didn't get all the crud off the needle and out of the seat or out of the gas line leading to them. If that sounds too easy then imagine crud getting in the ports and dainty places and you bent the float adjustment and there's junk that will require actual removal of the carb so you can blow it out with air, but you don't need a new carb. You need a new gas filter. -Randy Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted August 20, 2011 Report Posted August 20, 2011 I go one further..a bit of the curd got by the needle and seat..maybe even as you pulled it out and fell into the main jet..as you try to go faster, the slight blockage of the trash is enough to prevent ample fuel at that speed..less of an issue at idle as volume of fuel needed is less.. Quote
Don Coatney Posted August 20, 2011 Report Posted August 20, 2011 Rodney; I believe you have ruined your engine. Best thing you can do is sell me the car for 5 Grants before you lose everything. To complete this deal I am sending you a check for ten thousand dollars. Please deposit this check and quickly express me a refund to my Swiss Banc account for my overpayment of nine thousand five hundred in cash only and my agent will contact you for shipping details. If you dont like my idea then remove your carburetor, correctly clean it, and install an in line fuel filter. I hope you like my idea:D Quote
John Mulders Posted August 20, 2011 Report Posted August 20, 2011 would that be 9500 Swiss francs? That would be a nice exchange profit John Quote
Rodney Bullock Posted August 21, 2011 Author Report Posted August 21, 2011 I think your right Don send the check I am so sick of that thing I don't know what to do:mad: Oh, before you send the check I want to remove the carb so you don't have to then when you get it at least you know that I tried....Thanks Tim. The money should be in Euro's thanks:cool: Quote
yourpc48 Posted August 21, 2011 Report Posted August 21, 2011 Sounds like a junker. Ill give you scrap weight for it. The wrecking yard here is giving $170 a ton. Your car probably is about 2 tons so $340. Dont listen to Don. Its a scam... LOL Carb and a filter fixed mine. It will probably work for you too. Quote
Rodney Bullock Posted August 21, 2011 Author Report Posted August 21, 2011 I think I lost something now it will not start or move. You see:(If i had left it alone at least I could drive it. I think I lost something. Oh My, It's just getting worst and worst. Wo is me. Does anyone have a illistration of the carb top off Something must have fallen out. I don't even have a spar carb I can compare it too. That's it I'm gonna put a big V8 in there with no carb.:confused:It won't need gas make it run off something else. maybe I will use this motor. It caan't be worst. Quote
Don Coatney Posted August 21, 2011 Report Posted August 21, 2011 This might or might not help. These carburetors are very easy compared to some. If I were closer I would help. I do have a spare carburetor but it has not been in use for about 10 years. Quote
Don Coatney Posted August 21, 2011 Report Posted August 21, 2011 Did you get your balls in, and in the right places:confused: Geez for some reason this reminds me of Burl Ives (A lot of people have told me I look like Burl Ives) and I like his song "They Call Me Mister in Between". But when I start singing that song and get to the second verse "Got her in Behind" for some reason they quit talking to me? I must have the words wrong or something??? Quote
Rodney Bullock Posted August 21, 2011 Author Report Posted August 21, 2011 I am so scare of you all:cool: Quote
Rodney Bullock Posted August 22, 2011 Author Report Posted August 22, 2011 It's a carter B & B I just need to know what is infront of the gas line coming in. There is a needle and seat there as well Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted August 22, 2011 Report Posted August 22, 2011 Rodney the only needle and seat in the B&B is on the inlet line into the carb..it is operated by the float..it is here tha the first sign of trash can give you problems by not allow the need to fit properlyinto the seat and thus not cut off the cuppy of fule causing an overflow condition of fuel..if trash gets into a jet it can either restrict it completely and have no fuel flow or cause a flow problem and restrict you on top in where supply for fuel is the greatest..anything in front of this brass fixture on the carb could be a small air stone type filter.. Quote
Young Ed Posted August 22, 2011 Report Posted August 22, 2011 Rodney did you mess with your accelerator pump or the step up piston? Quote
38plymouth Posted August 22, 2011 Report Posted August 22, 2011 You might want to check your float and make sure you didn't bend the little tab. When I had my float set too low (caused by a taller needle) it caused a surge or miss at higher speeds. Quote
Joe Flanagan Posted August 22, 2011 Report Posted August 22, 2011 Rodney, check the manual. There is a section in there about setting the float height. It should be 5/64", I believe, from the top of the carb body. They have a diagram that shows you how to measure this. You can bend the tab either way to adjust the height. What I found helpful when cleaning my carb was one of those cans of compressed air they use for cleaning computer keyboards and innards, etc. They provide just the right pressure to dislodge any crap that might be in the carb's passageways without blowing tiny parts into the next township. Also, they come with one of those skinny red nozzles, which is very handy. You can get them at Staples. I swear by them. Quote
Rodney Bullock Posted August 22, 2011 Author Report Posted August 22, 2011 Ok, I went down this morning and played with the plymouth all day:rolleyes: Here is what happened. First I took the top back off and got all the gas out. there was alot of sediment in the fuel bowl Then I bent the tab for the float away from the float itself put everything back together and test drove the car. It was like riding a mechanical bull, bucking and jumping at 30 mph or more. Turned around and came back. I then bent the float tab back and pull that metal ring out it sit's on top of the floats pivot pin. I drove test the car again and it run great. I went to the gas station goy something to eat. I drove fast and hard to see if would hesitate and nothing however when I got back to the garage the car drifted to a stop and all I could smell was gas. I ate and then took the top back off. I bent the floar tab again and this time I flattened the metal ring and put it back in. test drove the car and it ran fine. I think I got it Quote
Rodney Bullock Posted August 22, 2011 Author Report Posted August 22, 2011 I have a question, if you all turn your air /fuel screw all the way in does your car cut off? When I turn mine in it runs a little ruff but does not cut off. If you turn it all the way out it runs rough however if you turn it in the idle does get better. Quote
Don Coatney Posted August 22, 2011 Report Posted August 22, 2011 I have a question, if you all turn your air /fuel screw all the way in does your car cut off? When I turn mine in it runs a little ruff but does not cut off. If you turn it all the way out it runs rough however if you turn it in the idle does get better. Rodney; I knew you could get it Adjust the idle mixture screw until the engine runs the best. Does your throttle butterfly plate close all the way? If it does not you need to adjust your linkage until it does. Might require an adjustment of your throttle cable free play. Once this is done you may need to adjust the carburetor idle screw needle valve again. Quote
Don Coatney Posted August 22, 2011 Report Posted August 22, 2011 I went to the gas station got something to eat. I ate What did you eat? Twinkies? HO-HO's? Moon pies? Fruit cake? Gas station food gives me gas but I cant make it stay in my tank:D Quote
Rodney Bullock Posted August 22, 2011 Author Report Posted August 22, 2011 Ok Don let's take a ride:)hold on Quote
Rodney Bullock Posted August 22, 2011 Author Report Posted August 22, 2011 I did not get my usual moon pie today as I was to excited about working on my car. I got a sub(turkey & cheese ) and large tea. My wife is stopping me from eating what I like. She claims I eat to much sweet cakes and pies. "No one lives forever" Right Duh...Winning! Quote
Don Coatney Posted August 22, 2011 Report Posted August 22, 2011 Ok Don let's take a ride:)hold on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugcHQ37XOPc Link did not work. Thy this. Still too slow! Try this. Quote
Don Coatney Posted August 22, 2011 Report Posted August 22, 2011 I did not get my usual moon pie today There is an annual Moon Pie/RC Cola celebration close to me in Bell Buckle, Tennessee. I expect to see you there soon. http://www.bellbucklechamber.com/index.html Quote
Rodney Bullock Posted August 22, 2011 Author Report Posted August 22, 2011 Rodney did you mess with your accelerator pump or the step up piston? Yes but only to see if they moved free Quote
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