BobT-47P15 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 A few days ago, I posted a picture, taken at a car show, of a black P15 coupe with chopped top. Now, it seems the same vehicle is for sale on ebay. Just posting this in case anyone would like to see what has been done with the car. Link to the ad with more pics....http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Plymouth-1947-plymouth-old-skool-rat-rod-custom-lowrider-choptop_W0QQitemZ180422147855QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item2a01ff7f0f#v4-35 Quote
claybill Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 hi bob. seems a little pricey with a standard drive train. i looked with some interest at your first posting. bill Quote
Frank Elder Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 I find the ceiling treatment to be the most interesting of all, I wonder how it was accomplished? Quote
michael.warshaw Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 i think the club coupe looks better chopped, anyone have pics of a club coupe chopped. Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 I find the ceiling treatment to be the most interesting of all, I wonder how it was accomplished? Not sure, but I do have a guess. If you blow the picture up on your computer you can see some weld joints around the edges. To eliminate putting a headliner in, I think they just cut some flat steel to fit, then rolled beads into the steel for extra strength so it wouldn't sound like a drum hitting bumps (like you would to prevent panning on the floor). Then welded that piece into the top around the edges. Not a bad idea, and if one wanted, they could now install a modern flat type headliner over that. Quote
Oldguy48 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 Looks to me like the headliner was done with fiberglass. Looks like the builder was very skilled at his work, but I don't care for the chopped top. I prefer the original profile. I'm not against modifications, but the chopped top just doesn't look right to me. Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 Looks to me like the headliner was done with fiberglass. Looks like the builder was very skilled at his work, but I don't care for the chopped top. I prefer the original profile. I'm not against modifications, but the chopped top just doesn't look right to me. That was my first thought too. He used fiberglass. But.....then started thinking about it. If that is all one piece across the top, the weight could cause it to fall, especially after the car is bounced around driving. Don't know how you could secure it without seeing fasteners of some kind, if it were fiberglass. That's why I said it's probably steel welded in, then painted. Bottom line. I'm like you, I really don't care for chopped tops either. Quote
Captain Neon Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 I don't like chopped tops either. Visibility in these old cars is limited as it is. I sure wouldn't go out of my way to make it worse. Quote
realgonekatt Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 Looks welded to me, and a damn fine job I might add. I like the chop, its not over the top and the final finish is very nice. I wont be chopping mine just because I could never pull it off that well. I cant see going that far and keeping a stock drivetrain but, you see that alot on custom sleds. Quote
RobertKB Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 Looks like a squashed bug. Much prefer either the business or club coupe STOCK. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 Looks like a squashed bug. Much prefer either the business or club coupe STOCK. now how did I know you were going to say that.... beauty behind all these modified cars with custom dashes, headliners, body mods, drivetrains and brakes/suspension etc etc ..it that the donor parts find their way to those who wish to try to keep one stock in appearance...everyone wins... Quote
Normspeed Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 I think the builder did a pretty nice job. The front end treatment is one of very few modified P15s that came out looking like a finished job. The chop looks good to me. About the only thing I would have not done is the 39 Ford taillights. They're OK, in fact that's what's on my teardrop, but just not a good look on the P15. I'd be surprised if he gets $20K for it though, in this economy. Quote
Captain Neon Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 I think the builder did a pretty nice job. The front end treatment is one of very few modified P15s that came out looking like a finished job. The chop looks good to me. About the only thing I would have not done is the 39 Ford taillights. They're OK, in fact that's what's on my teardrop, but just not a good look on the P15. I'd be surprised if he gets $20K for it though, in this economy. Martin Luther King, jr., had a dream too. He ended up getting shot... Quote
mackster Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 Martin Luther King, jr., had a dream too. He ended up getting shot... HA HA HA! I hope no one gets shot over it, but if they do I hope some one catches it on tape! I like to say it looks good and all the work to make it look that good shows how much that car is worth. I like them all stockers, customs, and I appreciate all work done to them. I even appreciated everyones opinions even if they dont like me! Quote
RobertKB Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 now how did I know you were going to say that....beauty behind all these modified cars with custom dashes, headliners, body mods, drivetrains and brakes/suspension etc etc ..it that the donor parts find their way to those who wish to try to keep one stock in appearance...everyone wins... Tim, probably because I have said it once or twice before. Hopefully some of the parts end up in the hands of someone keeping a stock appearance but my guess is that a lot gets trashed as its easier to throw it out than sign up for ebay, put it on ebay, and parcel it up and ship it. Doesn't have to be ebay but you get the idea. I do admire the workmanship in a project like that, don't get me wrong. However, as you know those cars have no appeal for me. Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 Robert, Most custom and hot rod guys I've met don't throw good parts away, even if they are not going to use them. They hang onto them to make trades with. Or, they sell them at swap meets, etc., just like we do to help pay for their car. I helped a street rodder load a 52 DeSoto on a trailer a few years ago. He only bought the car for the grill, to put in his 49 Mercury. He gave me the generator and the windshield wiper motor, arms and switch. The other dash parts, some engine parts he was going to sell, then junk the car. The body really wasn't any good on that car. Was too far gone, you could stick your finger through the rusted metal. Most street rodders and custom guys also appreciate a stock original car, so they don't like to throw away anything that is usable. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted October 22, 2009 Author Report Posted October 22, 2009 There's been a thread going on over on the HAMB for several months about this very subject. Guys with left over parts are offering them free to anyone who needs them.....the heavy, large items need to be picked up from the giver. The small items can be shipped. These are not necessarily all primo, shiny things, but some are good, while other items need to be rebuilt or repaired. Quote
RobertKB Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 (edited) With the demand for Desoto grilles from the hot rodders, I am surprised no one has started to reproduce them or a very close facsimile. Edited October 22, 2009 by RobertKB Spelling Quote
realgonekatt Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 With all the ford re-pops (even whole bodys) and all the mercs sporting desoto grills you would think someone might make that connection. Once my p-15 gets a shave and a haircut you can count on all the "spare" parts being listed on this site to re-coupe a little cash. I cant see anyone just throwing away valuable parts:eek: As a side note ive had front brake parts listed on here for ever with no interest. Though the oil bath a/c went real quick:cool: With the demand for Desoto grilles from the hot rodders, I am surprised no one has started to reproduce them or a very close facsimile. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted October 23, 2009 Author Report Posted October 23, 2009 (edited) With the demand for Desoto grilles from the hot rodders, I am surprised no one has started to reproduce them or a very close facsimile. Yeah......after all, they make those ugly (I M H O) rippled Bris bumpers which are supposed to resemble an old Chrysler bumper, and also perhaps a 49 Plymouth ripple bumper as well. I don't care much for them.....but may be better than no bumper at all. Edited October 24, 2009 by BobT-47P15 Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 (edited) I needed a new front bumper when I first bought my coupe. Was looking at the Briz bumpers and the 49 Plymouth bumpers for several years. Was really trying to find some nice 49 originals cheap. Finally found a pair at a swap meet one day for only $100 that weren't too bad. But.........after thinking about them didn't buy them. Then a guy in the Ford V8 club had a real nice pair I could have bought cheap. But..........by then had decided what I really liked was the nice smooth look of the original P15 bumper. I don't think I care for the 49 Plymouth or Briz bumpers on a P15 after all. When it comes to reproducing the 52 DeSoto grill, it's probably not worth the start up cost. About the biggest use in the street rod field is in 49/50 Merc's. In the original, well there probably isn't enough people who have that model DeSoto. That along with the same would apply to the 49/50 Merc's. Don't forget, not all street rodders would with those models of the Merc want that type of grill to begin with. So.........the demand would probably be too small either way. That would make the cost of reproductions way out of the price range people would want to pay. Edited October 23, 2009 by Norm's Coupe Quote
mackster Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 I needed a new front bumper when I first bought my coupe. Was looking at the Briz bumpers and the 49 Plymouth bumpers for several years. Was really trying to find some nice 49 originals cheap. Finally found a pair at a swap meet one day for only $100 that weren't too bad. But.........after thinking about them didn't buy them. Then a guy in the Ford V8 club had a real nice pair I could have bought cheap. But..........by then had decided what I really liked was the nice smooth look of the original P15 bumper. I don't think I care for the 49 Plymouth or Briz bumpers on a P15 after all.When it comes to reproducing the 52 DeSoto grill' date=' it's probably not worth the start up cost. About the biggest use in the street rod field is in 49/50 Merc's. In the original, well there probably isn't enough people who have that model DeSoto. That along with the same would apply to the 49/50 Merc's. Don't forget, not all street rodders would with those models of the Merc want that type of grill to begin with. So.........the demand would probably be too small either way. That would make the cost of reproductions way out of the price range people would want to pay.[/quote'] I saw on ebay aluminum reproductions of the Desoto grill the other day....it was around 600 cash without paint. i dont know if you can chrome aluminum????? Quote
Frank Elder Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 I would think it would look just fine polished:D Quote
realgonekatt Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 If anyone has any ribbed bumpers they would like to trade for a set of nice (nearly perfect) 46' bumpers gimme a holler. I've always liked them a little better plus my bumpers look "too" nice, as compared to the rest of my crome and stainless. I dont want any ratty bumpers but nice still. Quote
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