49 Pilot-house info please!

[1949d100]

Hi there,

I have a 1949 Model # DE108, I am wondering where I can find out more about these DE models specifically.

Thanks for your help.

[Vazlov1949]

Try accessing the features on this forum.

[townwagon]

The DE 108 (which I always thought was a DE1-108) was built in 1948 and 1949 with the serial numbers being:

1948 = 90080000 to 90083294

1949 = 90083295 to 90086150

To learn more about them I would buy the parts book, service manual, and owners manual that covers those trucks. Some of those books can be found on E-bay.

Most of the truck is the same as the B-1-B-108 built in the US, but I am pretty sure the Canadian truck has a 25 inch long motor instead of the 23 inch long motor used in the US. Also there may be other trim changes like the hubcaps.

If you need parts I would try and figure out what was changed between the US and Canadian versions before you buy anything, especially for the engine.

Good luck,

Eric

[townwagon]

The 1957 to mid 70s Dodge 1/2 ton 2wd trucks got the model number of D100, prior to that the numbers were things like WC, B-1-B-108 or C3-B6-116 (depending on the year) in the US.

Eric

[Tony WestOZ]

The DE 108 (which I always thought was a DE1-108) was built in 1948 and 1949 with the serial numbers being:

1948 = 90080000 to 90083294

1949 = 90083295 to 90086150

The book I have quotes the above numbers, the engine number prefix that goes with those ones is T-143-######. They are 218.06 cu" long block

It also list 90086151 to 90086798 that carried the engine prefix T-173 which is also a 218.06 cu".

[Bob_Koch]

Tony, I sent you a PM. If I can get a breakdown of the export and Australian Dodge and Fargo models then I can post it on the DPETCA website so that it's permanent.

[1949d100]

The DE 108 (which I always thought was a DE1-108) was built in 1948 and 1949 with the serial numbers being:

1948 = 90080000 to 90083294

1949 = 90083295 to 90086150

To learn more about them I would buy the parts book, service manual, and owners manual that covers those trucks. Some of those books can be found on E-bay.

Most of the truck is the same as the B-1-B-108 built in the US, but I am pretty sure the Canadian truck has a 25 inch long motor instead of the 23 inch long motor used in the US. Also there may be other trim changes like the hubcaps.

If you need parts I would try and figure out what was changed between the US and Canadian versions before you buy anything, especially for the engine.

Good luck,

Eric

See this is why I am so DAMN confused. I have the regi in my hand and it is a 49 and the model is D100, but the serial numer (Vin on my regi) says it is a 48.... and the guy before my told be that he put a 51 nose on it.... I have some pics on the www.jalopyjournal.com

under the same user name. So i have no clue what i have. Does anyone know if it is a common thing to have it registered as a newer year than it actually is?

Thanks for all the info Eric.

[Tony WestOZ]

Tony, I sent you a PM. If I can get a breakdown of the export and Australian Dodge and Fargo models then I can post it on the DPETCA website so that it's permanent.

Bob this is one book I have, it gives model and serial numbers for all Chrysler cars and trucks made in the USA and Canada up to 53.

It does not give a break down into what was export or for the local (US, Can)market .Just total numbers.

Not sure if its what you are looking for but there are about 30 pages in the truck section. I you want I can scan and email to you.

For Australian trucks there is no specific numbers on how many were imported from Canada from 48 to 52. The production numbers below are the same as the ones for total production in Canada.

From 53 on it does show how many were made of each model in Australia.

[bach4660]

See this is why I am so DAMN confused. I have the regi in my hand and it is a 49 and the model is D100, but the serial numer (Vin on my regi) says it is a 48.... and the guy before my told be that he put a 51 nose on it.... I have some pics on the www.jalopyjournal.com

under the same user name. So i have no clue what i have. Does anyone know if it is a common thing to have it registered as a newer year than it actually is?

Thanks for all the info Eric.

I can't see any reason, you still need to aircare it regardless of the year, and collector plates start at 25 years, so registering it a few years newer would not change anything.

By the way Tony thanks for posting the serial numbers, I am number 614 off the line!

[Bob_Koch]

Tony, how ever you can get the information to me I'll see that it gets posted on the website.

You The Man!

[Tony WestOZ]

Bob,

over the next week I shall scan the book then start emailing it to you.

[Merle Coggins]

See this is why I am so DAMN confused. I have the regi in my hand and it is a 49 and the model is D100, but the serial numer (Vin on my regi) says it is a 48.... and the guy before my told be that he put a 51 nose on it.... I have some pics on the www.jalopyjournal.com

under the same user name. So i have no clue what i have. Does anyone know if it is a common thing to have it registered as a newer year than it actually is?

Thanks for all the info Eric.

It is quite common for vehicle registrations from back then to not have the manufacture year correct. My truck is a 1950 model, but with a serial number near the end of the run. It is titled as a 1951 truck so I suspect it was delivered in early 1951 and sold that spring, so it was titled as a 1951.

It is odd that your title would say that it's a D100 though. Like Eric (townwagon) says, the D100 model designation wasn''t used until '57. Since it's unlikely that it sat unsold until 1957, I suspect that someone retitled it at one point and used the D100 model designation.

Go by the DE1 model designation and call it what it is, a '48 Dodge 1/2 ton truck. I did see 1 picture of your truck on the HAMB and it does have a 51 - 53 nose on it. So you could either leave it as is and enjoy it or find an original 48 - 50 nose and return it to it's original glory and enjoy it that way.

Welcome,

Merle

[greg g]

What Merle said is on the money. My 1946 built coupe was sold in late Dec of 46. So late that it wasn't DMV'd until Jan of 47. Being a New car never registered, in 46 it became a 47 on the Paperwork. To further complicate matters, some states here used the engine number, rather than the vehicle serial number, then as was common back then the engine would get swapped, and th engine number no longer agreed withthe title paperwork.

So as long as your paper work is clean, you can title, register it via what ever numbers work. Then you can do your research to put together the pedigree if that is what you want to do. Unless some body fudged the paperwork sometime in the past and used false paperwork to get around some titling difficulties. In that case, I don't have any idea what hopes your authorities will want you to jump through. Here in NY, all we have to do with an old non titled car is to take a pencil rubbing of the serial number to the DMV, chances are if the vehicle is older the number is no longer "in the system" So they will issue a transferable registration document to the bearer.

In all likelhood the confusion was probably caused by some clerk in the motor vehicle departmet who couldn't make out some one's hand writing and made your DE a D100, because he/she new that was Dodge nomenclature they were familiar with.

But seems you have the information needed as to not be confused, and if your engnie number begins as noted above, that should also clear up some thing as far as ordering engine parts.

[Guest Kuster13]

1949d100,

Where abouts are you located in the lower mainland? As long as you have good registration, ICBC doesn't care about year or model or make. Just pay them the money is what they want. Good to have another local pilot.

Tom

[1949d100]

I am in Cloverdale, I have insured the truck with day permits in the past. This is my first project and I just wanted to have all the info possible. Do you have any pics of your truck?

[Guest Kuster13]

Howdy neighbour! I'm live in Cloverdale as well. We may have to meet up.

Tom

[1949d100]

for sure, but as I said it is my first project and my "Learning curve" means that I am having ignition/Carb troubles as well as a few other "Little" set backs... I hope **Fingers Crossed** to have it running this summer.

[Guest Kuster13]

Me and my manuals and my experience are at your disposal.

I'm a stone's throw from the Kal tire at 180th and hwy 10. Pm me for the phone number.

Tom

Edited May 7, 2009 by Kuster13

[1949d100]

OK, so one of the first thngs I did was throw on a 12V alternator and bulbs etc. It was driving fine but for a little while, but recently I started having troubles where the motor lags really bad. I can get to 25-30 mph. I thought that I had messed the carb up (I turned down the Idle) but now I remember that I didn't change the voltage regulator. Could I have screwed something up or do I just need to change the Voltage regulater or does it matter?

[Guest Kuster13]

Does the alternator have an internal regulator?

[1949d100]

OK, Next dumb question... how can I tell? the alt. came with the truck.

It is probably a mute point as I ultimately want to put in a v8 and nicer breaks couldn't hurt so an front clip is probably in the future, when $$ permits.

[Guest Kuster13]

If your around this weekend give me a call and we can get together. Myself I would have to see the alt to be able to determine if it is internally regulated. A part number and make can also help.

Tom