Hounddog Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 Sorry but I have searched previous threads and still havent found anything. Im changing the oil on my 46 plymouth and when i tool the top off the oil filter there is nothing in there but oil? is this normal? Also if I have a 12 volt system do i have to get different points? Thanks in advance to any help Quote
grey beard Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 Most likely the person before you who changed the oil last could not find a filter to fit and just left the old element out. There are two types of filters our vehicles use - a can thpe and a sock arrangement that fits into the case very snugly. Look on the lid of your filter and there should be an identifying number. NAPA carries both filter numbers - might have to order it next day for you. Twelve volt systems use the same points as do six volt systems, but you need to be certain that a ballast resister is in series between the ignition switch and the coil. Typically these mount on or near the coil, itself and have a small ceramic block on the MoPar type. Get one and your points will last just as long as in the original six volt system. Good Luck Quote
RobertKB Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 Regarding the oil canister. There should be a paper filter inside that is removable and replaceable. Someone took it out and did not replace it. A lot of people on the forum, including myself, use the NAPA Gold 1080. Hope this helps. Quote
Hounddog Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Posted February 22, 2009 Thank you I appreciate the help! Quote
TodFitch Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 Regarding the oil canister. There should be a paper filter inside that is removable and replaceable. Someone took it out and did not replace it. A lot of people on the forum, including myself, use the NAPA Gold 1080. Hope this helps. There is also a "heavy duty" version that takes a different element, one that looks like a roll of twine. Seems like they call it a "sock filter" That filter element is also available, WIX 51011. But it seems most were fitted with one of the many filter kits that use the NAPA 1080 or equivalent. Quote
Frank Elder Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 If you have 2 questions that don't correlate, 2 different threads are better if you want an answer, that way if someone isn't interested in the first question, they won't miss the second one. Quote
Hounddog Posted February 23, 2009 Author Report Posted February 23, 2009 woops i thought i had this on the 12 volt thread! I didnt realize i placed it on the oil filter one sorry Quote
Frank Elder Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 Dog, if you want to delete all you have to do is hit edit , and choose delete. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 The oil filter - cannister type -- looks generally like this. Quote
Fluid drive Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 Houndog: I may have missd the discussion if it occurred in an earlier thread but so far no one has mentioned the fact that the filter used on most of the chrysler L-head engines of the dodge and plymouth cars were only of the siphon type. In other words, only some of the oil is filtered during operation. The chryslers had full flow filters on them starting some time around the war or just before. They were a filter that cleaned all the oil before it was pumped to the bearings. Full flow filters have to be equipped with a by pass in case something plugs them up or no oil will be delivered to the bearings. Often people would come into the chrysler dealership where I worked complainig of low oil pressure when it amounted to an old filter that hadn't been changed. Once the filter plugged the by pass would be forced open resulting in a loss of pressure because te by pass restricted the flow. I remember that in 1934 someone at chrysler had the idea to equip cars with oil filters. They took a fleet of brand new '34 plymouths and just changed filters but didn't change the oil. I don't remember how many miles but obviously everyone went back to changing oil like usual after that. By the way, any of you ever hear of a product called Pyroil? A buddy of mine wouldn't drive with out it. The agent for Pyroil in our town took a model A that had been driven some time with it in the crancase , drained the oil out with the car running ( right in front of the Federal truck agency where I was working after school) and drove the car out highway 34 to the little town of Munterville and back. Several of us standing there verified that there was no oil in that crancase. That car was still running when they put the pan plug back in it and poured the oil back in after about 30 miles of driving. Quote
Hounddog Posted February 23, 2009 Author Report Posted February 23, 2009 I found an oil filter at the local napa store when i go about changing the oil how do i get the oil out of the filter canister out? does it drain as the oil does or is there something special I need to do? Quote
T120 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 There may be a small removable brass plug near the bottom of the filter - this should be easy to locate.If not ,I use a simple suction gun -I believe I may have bought it at NAPA,not expensive. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 A popular and economical vacuum tool used by many is officially known as the Turkey Baster. Available from many sources at reasonable cost. (Some work better than others, so I've discovered) If you use the one in the kitchen drawer, it's your decision as to whether to tell the wife. Quote
Hounddog Posted February 23, 2009 Author Report Posted February 23, 2009 I never thought of a turkey baster thats a great idea! Thanks everyone for the help I would never of thought of a baster. Quote
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