John Burke Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 there is a local auction coming up with junky farm equipment including a 50's Massy Harris combine which has a chrysler flatty in it...It will probably go cheap as scrap iron is'nt bringing squat at this time.....I have heard that getting those engines out are real bear....Has anyone had any ex[p-erience at this that could pass on some advice or info. I think it would make a really good back-up for the Rat Rod, which by the way I am thinking strongly on taking to Bonneville to run this year......we'll have to see how time works out:cool: ...thanxz, John Quote
RobertKB Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 I took a flattie out of a combine years ago. I don't recall it being a difficult procedure but you do need a tractor with a front end loader or hoist of some kind to lift the motor as I believe it sits several feet above ground. Most of these combine engines came with the four field starter instead of the two field like our cars have. I have two out of three of my cars with these starters. They seem to have more ooomph and would be worth your while getting. Quote
HotRodTractor Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 I pulled my 265 out of an oliver combine. The hole motor is mounted on a skid in the engine bay. 6 bolts or so, pair of hydraulic lines, fuel line, a couple wires and a BIG drive belt. I lifted mine out using a set of pallet forks on a skid loader. I pulled that engine out back in 2004 and left it on the skid. In fact I JUST fired the engine up for the first time since I owned it over Christmas. One thing to watch for is an oil drain line coming off the oil pan. I ripped mine when removing the engine because I didn't see it, thankfully I only lost about a quart of oil. Good thing there was lots of dirt on the combine to soak it up! Jason Quote
greg g Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 The few I have seen, have the engine mouted nearly in the open on a bracket supported affair on the side of the machinery. There is a Case unit parked across the street from my father's house. It's Continental engine is mounted similarly. The only difuculty is the height at which thay are mounted, so as noted some sort of lifting an lowering device is needed. The one across the street has been attached to a block and tackle hanging from a tree limb. Its been that way for about 8 or 10 years. You wanna talk about junk farms..... http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?wip=2&v=2&style=r&rtp=~&&msnurl=home.aspx?%26redirect%3dfalse&msnculture=en-US#JnE9eXAuNTcxOCtDcmFidHJlZStMTiUyYytjaWNlcm8lMmMrbnklN2Vzc3QuMCU3ZXBnLjEmYmI9NDMuMTc0ODM3Nzg0ODgyNyU3ZS03Ni4xMjI1NDg0MjM2MjA5JTdlNDMuMTczMDQzNTM4MTc1OSU3ZS03Ni4xMjUzNTU0MjEwODY3 Quote
PatS.... Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 The one I saw on a Cockshutt combine was also on a sliding skid, kinda like a drawer. It would slide open for service and the "drawer" could be unbolted for removal with the engine still attached, but it was quite high off the ground. Probably an engine hoist in a pick-up would do the trick. Quote
John Burke Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Posted January 12, 2009 The few I have seen, have the engine mouted nearly in the open on a bracket supported affair on the side of the machinery. There is a Case unit parked across the street from my father's house. It's Continental engine is mounted similarly. The only difuculty is the height at which thay are mounted, so as noted some sort of lifting an lowering device is needed.The one across the street has been attached to a block and tackle hanging from a tree limb. Its been that way for about 8 or 10 years. You wanna talk about junk farms..... http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?wip=2&v=2&style=r&rtp=~&&msnurl=home.aspx?%26redirect%3dfalse&msnculture=en-US#JnE9eXAuNTcxOCtDcmFidHJlZStMTiUyYytjaWNlcm8lMmMrbnklN2Vzc3QuMCU3ZXBnLjEmYmI9NDMuMTc0ODM3Nzg0ODgyNyU3ZS03Ni4xMjI1NDg0MjM2MjA5JTdlNDMuMTczMDQzNTM4MTc1OSU3ZS03Ni4xMjUzNTU0MjEwODY3 Man Gegg that place is loaded with good stuff...enough to make a hard core junker swoon with delight...you better buy it all up before it's 2late.....jb Quote
Normspeed Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 Christopher "on the high and lonesome" should be able to give you the lowdown on removal. Believe he has had some experience with them.No posts in quite some time, but a PM, or e mail get to him. Christopher might suggest the quick and dirty removal method... Quote
moparalltheway Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 Just take a drive threw Arkansas and you will see many some still in use. They use them in the rice fields for irrigation. Quote
blueskies Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 ... I am thinking strongly on taking to Bonneville to run this year......we'll have to see how time works out:cool: ...thanxz, John I'm liking the sound of that... tell more... Pete Quote
John Burke Posted January 13, 2009 Author Report Posted January 13, 2009 I'm liking the sound of that... tell more...Pete In talking wth someone who has run there....It seems I could run the 130(?) class and the only mod I would have to do is add a driveshaft loop. I guess I would get a 3 mile run to do it in. As it is, I have had it up to about 100 on the hiway out here and that was with about a 1 mile run. I think a little super tuning and I'd be right in the money...As a matter of mention, when I was racing super modifieds, I dropped a driveshaft going down the back chute. It buired it 1/2 way into the ground and the car flew like a ploe vaulter...It stayed on all, 4 but what a ride...any way, back to Bonneville, I am going to get in contact with them and see what all is involved....I'll be 69 when I go out there but I still feel the "NEED FOR SPEED"....John Burke Quote
Don Coatney Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 In talking wth someone who has run there....It seems I could run the 130(?) class and the only mod I would have to do is add a driveshaft loop. I guess I would get a 3 mile run to do it in. As it is, I have had it up to about 100 on the hiway out here and that was with about a 1 mile run. I think a little super tuning and I'd be right in the money...As a matter of mention, when I was racing super modifieds, I dropped a driveshaft going down the back chute. It buired it 1/2 way into the ground and the car flew like a ploe vaulter...It stayed on all, 4 but what a ride...any way, back to Bonneville, I am going to get in contact with them and see what all is involved....I'll be 69 when I go out there but I still feel the "NEED FOR SPEED"....John Burke John; Is a roll cage required? Quote
blueskies Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 In talking wth someone who has run there....It seems I could run the 130(?) class and the only mod I would have to do is add a driveshaft loop. I guess I would get a 3 mile run to do it in. As it is, I have had it up to about 100 on the hiway out here and that was with about a 1 mile run. I think a little super tuning and I'd be right in the money...As a matter of mention, when I was racing super modifieds, I dropped a driveshaft going down the back chute. It buired it 1/2 way into the ground and the car flew like a ploe vaulter...It stayed on all, 4 but what a ride...any way, back to Bonneville, I am going to get in contact with them and see what all is involved....I'll be 69 when I go out there but I still feel the "NEED FOR SPEED"....John Burke John- I think you can get all the information you need for your class at: http://www.scta-bni.org/ I would love to see you take a few runs on the salt. I'm planning on being there this year. I missed last year and opted for a motorcycle trip through Glacier National Park instead. Missed the trip to the salt for certain. Getting up to speed on the salt is quite a bit different from pavement... It might be more difficult that you'd expect... Burt Munro set his land speed records that have never been beaten while in your age range, you are never too old to make your dreams come true. Pete Quote
martybose Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 I went to Bonneville a lot of years ago with a car that set a record in the 160 range. I learned two things on that trip: 1. The altitude really affects speed, you won't run like you can anywhere else. If possible, put a lot more compression in the motor. Ours was 14:1, just about killed itself on the sea-level dyno, ran fine at altitude. 2. Think of it as the world's longest dragstrip. Just because you can put in a gear that will have you running 230 at redline doesn't mean you be able to accelerate to that speed in the available space. There's also the issue of RPM drop between gears; if it is too much, you might drop off of the power curve when you shift and slow down! It's a fun experience, you'll love it! Marty Quote
Christopher Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 might be a 265, probably a 251.the come out the side. might have to remove the tire.lots of things to unbolt.should be mounted on a angle iron skid deal..if they didn't cap the vertical exhaust. number one will be rusted up.any more, I prefer to find them already out..but I have enough of them now. been to busy to work on anything for a year or so.thinkin about it though.. also Im refering to wheat combines..didn't catch what kind you mentioned..Christopher,, from the high and lonesome............. Quote
blueskies Posted January 16, 2009 Report Posted January 16, 2009 ...I am going to get in contact with them and see what all is involved....I... Speed Week entry forms for '09 are up on the SCTA-BNI site... http://scta-bni.org/SCTA-NewWeb/Bonneville/2009_Info.html $400 before May 15, $600 after... Pete Quote
Xea737373 Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 The 130 MPH club is a function of the Utah Salt Flat Raceing Association http://www.saltflats.com/ Scta is a little more hardcore and the rules are much tougher. Quote
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