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The steering wheel center and the wheel look like 1946 -1948 Plymouth (might fit 1941 as well). However the horn ring looks alot like the 1941 Plymouth. Notice the two ares at 5 & 7 o'clock that are ribbed. They look like 1941 Plymouth and I have seen both the full ring (complete circle) and the half moon horn ring. It appears that there were two style available. Possibly to improve sight lines of the speedo and instruments. And YES many full horn rings broke from use (misuse).

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I was refering to the garnish moldings which are different for different body styles. Front windshield inner garnish moldings are the same for all 46 -48 S11 Desotos. Side and rear moldings vary from one to the other. After closer inspection the original posters name "4dr orphan" probably answers my original question

4 door, coupe, 2 door sedan, 7 passenger? They all use different window garnish moldings.

The worm gear on the steering tube shaft is shared on many models and vehicles. The gear itself is pressed on and "might" be able to be (professionally) swapped. As mentioned previously the difference in many of the shafts is the length. Older cars and trucks have the shorter shafts and as the cars became longer, so did the steering shaft. Not sure which would be better....swapping the gear or splicing the shaft? One thing for sure...most used gears are worn out and not worth the time and trouble.

The 7 passenger Desoto sedan was a larger car and although it sat on the same wheelbase 121 1/2" the car measures 222 3/4" long vs. the sedan at 207 1/4". Many of the parts differ to handle the greater weight and passenger loads. Brakes, front end parts and other assorted items differ from the two models. There are two trim level for the 1946 - 1948 S11 Desoto model lines. S - 11 Deluxe S - 11 Custom If you need more info please feel free to ask as I do have the parts books, manuals and brochures around here somewhere?

1941 was the last year for the Panel Delivery from Plymouth. 1940 was similar body style and the 1939 Plymouth Panel Delivery was based on the previous model cars with the shorter wheelbase. Unlike the later Dodges the Plymouth Panels were based on the car chassis. Panel Deliveries have two rear doors and Sedan Deliveries have only one opening rear door. Most were based on the lower priced models as the vehicle was purchased for commercial use and driven by employees for small business. So a P7, P9 and P11 are more common. In most cases the Panel deliveries were void of radio, passenger seat, double tail lights and occasionally were equiped with only one windshield wiper! Below are some pictures of a 1941 Plymouth Panel truck that was restored as an upper model P12 optioned vehicle.

In the picture of the mount the part appears to be correct as found on my 1939 Plymouth Coupe. However in the picture the rear half of the mount is correct but missing a set of plates made of spring steel that isolate the horn from the mount. I can provide a better picture later in the week if necessary. Happy Motoring............

Here are a couple of pictures of a 1941 CDN Dodge D20 A/S (auxillary seat coupe). The rear seat arrangement is quite handy and provides forward facing seating for passengers. It is quite flexible in that the seat bottoms are independent and fold up into the vertical position behind the seat back. There are a number of variations that include one seat up and one seat down. Both seats "disappear" into the seat back "cavity" and provide a large cargo area. The Firewall plate includes "A/S Coupe" which I believe indicates Auxillary Seat Coupe. Never heard it reffered to as a rumble seat coupe before? Great design and useful.

yes the dash gives it away

Everything looks Chrysler Not much if any? Plymouth in that car. Note the body shape, dash plastic and grill/headlights ALL Chrysler parts. I can not see ANY Plymouth parts on that car. Many eBayers write Chrysler Plymouth or Chrysler Desoto This is the first time I have seen a listing written the other way "Plymouth Chrysler" Probably a 1941 Chrysler Royal Brogham without any Plymouth mixed in. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Plymouth-Other-Royal-Brougham-1941-Plymouth-Royal-Super-RARE-1-of-only-27-Great-cruiser-/300774128659?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item460788fc13#v4-47

The most valuable and hard to find part on that coupe is the rear quarter body moldings. They are by far the most valuable and dearest part on that car. I am refering to the moldings that extend from the rear of the door towards the back of the car that are the extension of the belt moldings. Since they are stainless they dont rust and can be repaired even when dented. Easily worth $250 - $300 FOR THE PAIR!!!!

The Canadian 1941 Dodge D20 & D21 were Plodges utilizing the Plymouth body. You are correct in regards to the grill application. They look similar BUT the CDN grill has a different profile and needs to match the contour of the 41 Plymouth headlamp bezels. The US vs. CDN grills also differ in the number of horizontal bars. Here are two pictures of CDN Plodges a 1941 Dodge D20 and a 1939 Dodge D 12 (13?) Both are Plymouth bodied Dodges with specialized trim to convert the Plymouth body to look like a Dodge. All grill trim is cast pot metal.

In the late 1930's (38?) Chrysler Canada started Manufacturing long block motors out of the newly built engine plant in Windsor Ontario Canada. ALL Canadian Plymouhs received the larger motor. The trim was made specifically for the CDN market. I guess they were trying to make as much of the car in Canada as possible for trade rule reasons. B-Watson would be the expert on the topic. Looking forward to hearing his expert opinion.

Possibly cheaper to stamp Stainless steel then cast "pot metal". Interestingly, US built 1939 Plymouth vehicles had stainless steel trim and Canadian cars had pot metal. Funny since the climate in Canada was not kind to the cast trim and the kinder weather climate to the South would have been a better choice for the pot metal. The trim is interchangeable so no problem fitting the stainless on Canuck cars that have long been parted from the disintegrated pot metal.

Phyliss Diller's first TV appearance (at the age of 40) was on Grouco Marx's show "You bet your life". In the you tube clip you can see the Desoto Plymouth "Forward Look" logo on the backdrop behind Groucho. Looks like the show was sponsored by Chrysler to promote the Forward Look cars.

The clips you are looking for are an "envelope" style and are made of spring steel. Part # 898734. They look the same as a 1941 Plymouth grill clip however they are larger and measure 7/8" x 39/64". Enclosed is a scan from the parts book, found in the COOLING section not the body section. Funny because hood ornaments are also listed under cooling (a throw back from the mascot era). The photograph shows the 1941 Plymouth clips (similar). In 1941 Chryslers were equiped with a pot metal grill molding that no longer used this style of clip. Plymouth still used this style clip in 1941. These clips are hard to find and when rusted lose their ability to firmly hold the molding to the sheetmetal grill. The good news is that the 1940 clips are often mistakingly purchased for 41's and you might find some under the mislabeled 1941 title. Expect to pay $3-$4 a piece. Hope that helps.

The restoration of a wheel that is down to the bare core is "recasting" Most quality steering wheel restoration shops can recast wheels by using a mold. Unlike pick and fill repairs "recasting' is the complete remanufacture of the 'PLASTIC' rim.

Check the housing to see if it is a Borg Warner unit Next see if it has a model # embossed in the case R10? Check the solenoid for an autolite # Borg Warner made OD's for many manufacturers

"This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available" Translation - buyer accepted an offer, sold it outside of eBay and ended the auction early. Assumption - the buyer accepted an offer thought to be good and missed out on $$$'s.

The recent information and discussion in regards to foreign production, sales, photographs and charts has been an excellent addition to the forum. Contributors like B-Watson, Bill Kriener and Eh Dubya have helped to chronicle info and make it available here on the forum. Looks like most of the info would take hours of searching libraries and databases, to have it on the forum and available to all is an unexpected bonus. I personally enjoy learning more about Chrysler sale, production and manufacturing around the world. THANKS to all who contribute to this discussion with depth and knowledge. So can anyone tell me if there is truth to the story that 1939 Plymouth 7 passenger sedans were made in Sweden? after 1939 for government vehicles?

In 1941 Chrysler did not offer an optional Plymouth "Banjo" steering wheel. Just the plain 3 spoke steering wheel with horn button and a "deluxe" wheel with 3 spokes and a horn ring.

Information provided from Dealer Accessories Catalog Have had both styles of 1940 wheels in the past & 1939 Plymouth Banjos & 1939 Chrysler Banjos as well. If you need any more info feel free to request. The Dealer Accessories 1940 Plymouth catalog is detailed and precise with great pics/drawings.

There are three different springs They allow for different relief pressures They are differentiated by part # and color coded as well.