Way Off Topic any firearm afficianados here?

[greg g]

I have recently come into posession of some rifles and a shotgun. I am trying to seel them but don't have any idea of thier value. So if anybody know or can recommend a site or publication to help, I would appreciate it. If any one is interested, an any or all of them I would entertain an email or PM.

They are

a 1927 vintage Winchester Model 94 chambered for 30 30. Condition fair to good. Some bluing missing, some wear marks on the metal, no gouges or deep scratches, some scrapes and scratches on the stock. No rust, lever action works correctly.

a 1960/61 Remington model 722 bolt action chambered for .222. with 10x Weaver scope. Condition very good, with minimal field wear. excelent optics,

Scope features distance adjustable cross hairs. nice light and accurate varmint rifle. Reloading equipment and supplies also available.

a Remington model 760 Wingmaster 16 ga. pump shot gun. Ribbed barrel in water foul length. Condition good. Currently covered in Camoflage tape.

[Plymouthy Adams]

the .222 sounds like a keeper..the Winchester 30-30..never been a fan of that caliber but it is the right model to have..the 94 is also a keeper..shotgun..don't know..

[Tony Cipponeri]

Hey Greg, you ought to pick up a copy of Shot Gun News, it comes out every month and any gun you can name is in it, you could at least know what yours is worth. You could go on the web to www.sassnet.com They would be interested in the 94 Winchester, that's the Cowboy Shooing Action web site. Tony C

[thedahmer]

I would be interested in the Sweet 16--

[jamesadams]

love to have the .222, but i don't know about the laws on shipping out of New York.

[Johnny S]

You might want to look at the Gun Traders Guide or the Blue Book of Gun Values. Tim is right on the .222 being a fairly desirable firearm....depending on condition of course. I think your 16 gauge must be a Model 870 Wingmaster. The Model 760 is a rifle I believe. The vintage 1927 30-30 may well be quite collectable as well. As to legal out of state shipping....it would have to be gun dealer to gun dealer to be legal.

[greg g]

You are correct on the shotgun, I had a brain fahrt when typing the model number.

[Normspeed]

I have a later model 94. I understand they have not changed much since the 1800's, great old gun. Hope to do some range time with mine at the holidays. That 30-30 ammo is sure pricey, I almost wish it was chambered for something cheaper. I'm more likely to slay targets and cans than wild game.

[knighthawk]

Anything with the winchester name on it is worth more cause they quit making them. The 30-30 is good for deer hunting, but not for " cowboy action shooting ", there the caliber has to be a cowboy caliber , ie 44, 45, 38, etc. The 870 is also a good gun, I regret having to sell mine when I bought all these cowboy guns !!

[Ed Griffin]

Yep, the 30/30 looks like the old west style or even the earlier Henry but it's basically a deer rifle. Least thats what I used the one time I went deer and bear hunting in the Sequia Mountains. Think it was the 44/40 that was more the western type like "The Rifleman" carried but dont quote me on any of this. Your 16 gauge Wingmaster sounds more like a skeet shooter (trap shoot) or a small game hunting shotgun. Since someones camoed it, then it was probably used for dove and tree rat hunting. From what I remember it has the nice finish on it under that camo and you may want to remove it and clean it up before selling. Unlike the express which has a dull finish and is used to hunt fowl and comes in a 12 gauge, the wingmaster had the nicer finish and is more desirable over the express. I've had both in auto and pump versions but all were 12 gauge and are long gone now.

Cant help with the bolt action rifle. Only familier with the M-16, black powder muskets, pistols and cannons.

[Johnny S]

I believe the 30-30 is a legal caliber for Cowboy Action Shooting in the long range rifle category, ;but not in the pistol caliber rifle category where most of the rifle shooting is done. At least it is under SASS rules. It would make a sweet long range gun out to about 200-300 yards. Actually the ammo is about as cheap as you can get for a centerfire cartridge that's US developed and its available just about everywhere. WalMart generally carries it for 8.99/box of 20. You can find cheaper Russian and Chinese stuff in their weird calibers but that's not for me.

[knighthawk]

Johnny, I wasn't aware that the 30-30 was used in the "long range ", I guess I just assumed it was the old stuff like 45-70, and black power. Never thought about using it for target practice ! Two things you can never have enough of : cars and guns!!

[Johnny S]

You would still need to use non-jacketed bullets and double check with your local club to see if they have any problems using a 30-30 on their targets but I suspect the fact that it is a vintage Winchester would win the day with most clubs. I haven't loaded for the 30-30 but have for the 45-70. I bet you could just about match them load for load. If you are into Cowboy it might be a bet to hang on to it. Or, alternatively.....trade it for a 45-70. You might be able to do that without a lot of new cash outlay. And, one gun out and one gun in might not even catch any attention for the rest of the family. I been shooting Cowboy here in Colorado for just about 2 years now at the Pawnee Sportsman's Center. I think we have about 12 clubs to pick from around the state. Shooting goes on year round in most areas....except Cheyenne, Wyoming where the wind blows constantly and the temps in winter don't ever seem to get above 0.

[knighthawk]

now that you mention it , I think it was the non-jacketed bullets thing is why I didn't do it. I'll keep it cause it is a '94 ,But, it's like my Harley sitting over there in the corner, I may not use it everyday, but I got one.

[Plymouthy Adams]

In regard to the 45-70..do you really think the guys rode across the pararie standing in the stirrups and shoulder firing that gun at buffers? The 45-70 I fired had a slight bit of a punch to the shoulder. Makes a good meat tenderizer. (YEAH..YOUR SHOULDER MEAT)

I used to load 30-30 cartridges..not my favorite caliber..I have not even unpacked my reloading equipment since moving over 12 years ago..

[Tony Cipponeri]

Well Tim, I was a cowboy shooter and I Did shot End Of Trail 2004, The last one they had in California, but prior to that I haven't shoot in a few years. My alias is Butch Cavechee, The italian Butch Cassidy, I wear Sass Badge # 20, that will show my age> Tony C

[Ed Griffin]

When stationed in 29 Palms in 78/79 they had something called Western day? Western week? I think it was called. You were allowed to wear a holstered western pistol around during that time in town. Does this sound correct and do they still carry on this tradition out there?

I picked up a 2 pistol western holster this summer and have been curious if it was a collectable because of the ornate Mason, Shriner and Scottish Right insignias that are on it. Any of you western shooters ever seen a holster like this before, know anything about them etc? If a pic would help, can take one and post if needed.

[knighthawk]

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An Italian Butch Cassidy , how many thimes did you have to explain that one ? End of trial would be neat, I should have gone to it in New Mexico when I was in Texas . Member # 20 puts you almost in the founders "wild bunch". Mine is 30,000 something , now they must be close to 100,000. Knighthawk is from Paladin with a pair of Ruger Blackhawks ! As for Mr. Griffin's holster, you can get anything engraved on a holster, it was probabley owned by a Mason , etc, cowboy shooter(???)

[Johnny S]

Tony, SASS 20........part of the Wild Bunch or very very close to it?? I'm SASS 61291 and I think they are up in the 70,000's now. Ed...holsters....I'd like to see a photo. Tim, what ya got for reloading equipment .... wanna sell?

[Plymouthy Adams]

Thanks for asking but I will hold onto the stuff for now...maybe one day I will get back into shooting...I used to pop 400-600 rounds a week years ago..30 round magazines empty rather quick...

.223

22.250

30-30

30-06

.243

6.5 Jap

pistol dies are carbide...357/38

[Tony Cipponeri]

Yeah, I was there when SASS first started, And No I wasn't in the wild bunch, but I did know them all and we had some great fun, but then it became a big business and it took a lot out of it for me. The biggest thing they have done wrong, is outlawing the Marlin pump shot gun, I have shot god knows how many rounds thru mine and never had a problem. Tony C

[greg g]

I will have some reloading stuff for sale shortly. will need to go through and inventory the stuff, but I believe it is for .222 and 16 gauge shotgun. Lots of primers and powder also if memory serves. Where are you located Johnny S.

[Johnny S]

Greg....I'm in northern Colorado - Fort Collins

[greg g]

Interested in any of the reloading supplies????

[Johnny S]

Let me know what you have and I may well be. Just send me a PM when the time comes. I'm in no hurry but always looking.