1950 Chrysler Imperial starter solenoid

[The M]

Hello everbody,

 

this is my first topic here. I'm currently working on my 1950 Chrysler Imperial. After i got it back on the road, the starter stopped working. I began to rebulit it but now it looks like the Pull-in Coil is broken. I have to push the plunger a little with my hand, then it is attracted by the magnetic force. Maybe some windings have lost their insulation?

This raises two possible scenarios: 

1. Buying a new solenoid... -> Seem to be impossible. I can't find a similar solenoid.

2. Rebuilt the coil myself. Has anyone ever done this and perhaps has some helpful tips for me?

The original part (Autolite SSX 4101 6V 8E)
There was also a version 15-40 Chrysler 1343695 that was intended to serve as a spare part.

Best regards
Mirko 

[Bingster]

I've just been through the same experience with my '47 De Soto starter. It takes an ss4507 starter and my rely was shot.  One day as I was surfing the net I accidentally found a guy who was selling a NOS relay for my starter. Needless to say, I bought it. Apparently he had a few and mine was the last. Anyway, when tested it worked great and now I am in the process of getting my starter back together.

 

I always operate with the optimism in mind that somewhere out there is an answer to a problem that just takes some rooting out. Hit all of the usual suspects of Mopar parts and you might run across one or a starter that may be shot but the relay might work.

 

I also accidentally came across NOS pistons for my front brake cylinders.

 

There are many on this board with far more experience and knowledge about these things than me, so I'm sure they'll chime in. They've helped me out a lot to understand how a starter and solenoid go together.

[Bingster]

I don't know if this is your starter, but it's a typical find off a search of your part number. I have a feeling that there is one out there for you somewhere. Spend an hour and scour the net.

https://www.hiltopautoparts.com/product/nos-mopar-starter-solenoid-1950-thru-1954-desoto-chrysler-models/

 

[Dansk]

I knew a guy that worked in a pinball parts place. They rewind coils for the solenoids on those. Maybe you could find a coil rewind service?

[The M]

@Dansk yes that might be a possible solution. I was hoping to find someone who has experience in rewinding these coils. Maybe I'll give it a try. 

Edited December 19, 2023 by The M

[capt den]

my jeweler had a guy that could work on small parts. they can solder tiny stuff and work with snall parts. worth a try.   capt den 

[Sniper]

Winding a coil isn't hard.  Getting the right gauge magnet wire and the number of turns is important.  Just pull the old wire off, carefully, measure the length and gauge, then cut a new piece of the same gauge magnet wire to the same length and wind it up.

 

 

[The M]

18 hours ago, Sniper said:

Winding a coil isn't hard.  Getting the right gauge magnet wire and the number of turns is important.  Just pull the old wire off, carefully, measure the length and gauge, then cut a new piece of the same gauge magnet wire to the same length and wind it up.

 

 

Thanks a lot for this video! Great idea. I'll keep you updated.

[The M]

I now finished my project. Just wanted to let you know everything works fine now. New wire, sandblasting, painting, refurbished the 6v relay.

[The M]

[The M]

[Sniper]

Great to hear.  Now you can offer solenoid rewinding services, lol

[sidevalvepete]

Awesome work. We'll done Sniper for your contribution...have stored this info away for future reference...