Can't find this broken spring on the column

[mvpcustoms]

17 minutes ago, Sniper said:

 

Not sure what nuts and bolts you are referring to.

Fenders, core support, bumpers, inner fenders, etc. Does anybody sell a kit, we buy them for other cars all the time

[Sniper]

40 minutes ago, mvpcustoms said:

Fenders, core support, bumpers, inner fenders, etc. Does anybody sell a kit, we buy them for other cars all the time

 

I think Bob summed it up for us.  To the best of my knowledge there is no kit.  The parts book usually will tell you that info so you can make a list and build your own kit.  Or fo what I do, just buy a nut and bolt assortment kit and use what you need.

[Bob Riding]

What Sniper said...

[JerseyHarold]

9 hours ago, mvpcustoms said:

I think this front end has been replaced with dodge parts, what do the experts say. Everything else says and matches Plymouth but this grill with the round lights on the outside. Frame shows signs of repair from an accident before.

Maybe it's a Canadian car.  Chrysler would put a Dodge nose on a Plymouth body and call it a Dodge.  People refer to them as a 'Plodge'.  The Vehicle Number can pin this down.

[mvpcustoms]

1 minute ago, JerseyHarold said:

Maybe it's a Canadian car.  Chrysler would put a Dodge nose on a Plymouth body and call it a Dodge.  People refer to them as a 'Plodge'.  The Vehicle Number can pin this down.

Thanks I'll look it up

[mvpcustoms]

That spring part number is not coming up anywhere, I messaged that seller to see if he has an actual pic of the part. Don't want to order if it's not correct, it says for 40-48 dodge truck on his listing. 

[Sniper]

I looked up the number in my parts manual.  It is what it is, the right number for your application according to the factory parts manual.  What some seller thinks, who knows. 

 

Your other option to fix this is to pull the column apart, measure the spring wire diameter, the free standing height and the number of turns, then spends hours online trying to find something that can be made to work.  Mcmaster Carr has a selection of springs that might help you

 

https://www.mcmaster.com/springs/spring-type~compression/compression-spring-stock-7/

Edited December 20, 2022 by Sniper

[mvpcustoms]

59 minutes ago, Sniper said:

I looked up the number in my parts manual.  It is what it is, the right number for your application according to the factory parts manual.  What some seller thinks, who knows. 

 

Your other option to fix this is to pull the column apart, measure the spring wire diameter, the free standing height and the number of turns, then spends hours online trying to find something that can be made to work.  Mcmaster Carr has a selection of springs that might help you

 

https://www.mcmaster.com/springs/spring-type~compression/compression-spring-stock-7/

I just made one, thanks. I might as well start selling parts hell, everything I end up needing I end up making?

[desoto1939]

Before the internet and also with major suppliers of reproduction parts and or even part sellers like Bernbaums, and other parts collectors us antique car owners were soley

relying on people at swap meets to have the various parts, such as Hershey, etc.   You also had to remember that people that sell parts have to travel to find the parts and that not all of the parts are available. Most of these old parts are from leftover stock that were put on a back shelf in a dealers parts room. Then the dealership goes out of business and then an auction was held to get rid of the old junk or sometimes they just tossed the parts in the trash. Most of the major auto makers would not take parts back from a dealership.

 

So, in its infancy of auto restoration these prior owners had to fabricate those real hard to find parts such as you did with you spring but that was the part that alot of owners found interesting and it got them to know for about their specific vehicle. Now adays some of the fun is just trying to find that odd ball part and or making the connections via other owners and their contacts. Also remember that NOS, New Old Stock, parts does not mean that you are getting perfect  part. Sometimes the parts had a small defect and it was put back on the parts shelf or it did not fit perfectly. Yes, NOS means basically that the part has never been placed on a car, but might not be perfect.

 

 

What I have seen oer the 35 years is that people are buying antique cars but most do not have the experience of driving one or have been a passenger in one. They see all of the reproduction parts and assume that every part for every car or truck will be available to purchase.  This is not the true case. I was looking for one of the return springs for my 1939 Desoto that has the floor push start rod. What I found was that the company wirewick made these springs from 1935-38. The 39 Autolite starter motor used a different spring and the return spring mounted differently. I did find a vender that had the original and I purchased several to have a spares and gave one to a fellow 39 Desoto owner. But it took me several months to find this particular spring. So get to know your cars/trucks and do not assume every part is just sitting on some venders shelf, you might have to look real hard or even make the item yourself.

 

Rich Hartung

Desoto1939@aol.com