Not like the old days

[Falcon(63)]

Some of you other old farts might remember when a 2x4 measured 2" x 4". then it was an 1 1/2 x 3 1/2 inches. What I am eluding to is my visit to Lowes today. I went to purchase lumber for my truck bed. You know a 1x8 should measure 1" x 8" right? Of course not. It measures 3/4 x 7 1/2". Wrong! It now measures 11/16 x 7 3/8. So that meant that I had to buy 6 1x10 in order to get enough width for the truck bed. So if you are shopping for lumber for your truck beds, take your tape measure with you. I didn't so I borrowed one of theirs

[DAVE KNOXX TENN]

Some of you other old farts might remember when a 2x4 measured 2" x 4". then it was an 1 1/2 x 3 1/2 inches. What I am eluding to is my visit to Lowes today. I went to purchase lumber for my truck bed. You know a 1x8 should measure 1" x 8" right? Of course not. It measures 3/4 x 7 1/2". Wrong! It now measures 11/16 x 7 3/8. So that meant that I had to buy 6 1x10 in order to get enough width for the truck bed. So if you are shopping for lumber for your truck beds, take your tape measure with you. I didn't so I borrowed one of theirs

I Know What you mean!!!!!!!!!!!. One Day soon A Peson Will be able to cook a house in a microwave oven whith 1 tablespon off water then let cool for three minutes!!!!!!!!

[PatS....]

Some of you other old farts might remember when a 2x4 measured 2" x 4". then it was an 1 1/2 x 3 1/2 inches. What I am eluding to is my visit to Lowes today. I went to purchase lumber for my truck bed. You know a 1x8 should measure 1" x 8" right? Of course not. It measures 3/4 x 7 1/2". Wrong! It now measures 11/16 x 7 3/8. So that meant that I had to buy 6 1x10 in order to get enough width for the truck bed. So if you are shopping for lumber for your truck beds, take your tape measure with you. I didn't so I borrowed one of theirs

OLD FART????? I don't think I like your attitude!!!!

Actually, I think you will find that the lumber is now cut to metric specs as close as possible to the OLD English measurements.

[Tony WestOZ]

I think you guys are being ripped off.

11/16 and 7 3/8 does not convert to our common metric sizes.

I have the same thing happening here with US made nuts and bolts (mainly used on Caterpillar gear). Where as before a 19 mm (3/4") spanner would fit, now I have to use a 18 mm spanner. This is a pain if you are buying a new tool kit (because of some low-life steeling some of my tools) 18mm is not standed out here.

[PatS....]

I think you guys are being ripped off.

11/16 and 7 3/8 does not convert to our common metric sizes.

I have the same thing happening here with US made nuts and bolts (mainly used on Caterpillar gear). Where as before a 19 mm (3/4") spanner would fit, now I have to use a 18 mm spanner. This is a pain if you are buying a new tool kit (because of some low-life steeling some of my tools) 18mm is not standed out here.

Tony, I would bet you a Molson that the "US made nuts and bolts" were actually made in China.

[Mario Loya B1B]

Actually, I think you will find that the lumber is now cut to metric specs as close as possible to the OLD English measurements.

FYI - 11/16 inch (17.46mm) 3/4 inch (19.05mm)

I'm not good at math. I just like to get what I pay for.

[Young Ed]

Did a 2x4 ever measure 2x4? I thought they started out an 1/8 under each way. When I redid the floor in the 46 I bought a rough sawn 2x4 that was actually 2x4. Of course by the time I got it smooth it was about an 1/8 under the full 2 inches of height I needed for my truck floor.

[Don Coatney]

Did a 2x4 ever measure 2x4? I thought they started out an 1/8 under each way. When I redid the floor in the 46 I bought a rough sawn 2x4 that was actually 2x4. Of course by the time I got it smooth it was about an 1/8 under the full 2 inches of height I needed for my truck floor.

Ed;

When I was growing up full dimension lumber could still be purchased off the shelf at many lumber yards. My dad built a pair of saw horses from full dimension lumber that I still have today. Do a Google search for "full dimension lumber" and you will find that it is still available today if your pockets are deep.

[Tony WestOZ]

Tony, I would bet you a Molson that the "US made nuts and bolts" were actually made in China.

They could be made in China, but that is not necessarily a reflection of bad quality.

Cat equipment produced in Japan, Europe or England at the moment doesn’t seem to have followed this trend. It only seems to US made products.

PS. what is a Molson?

[Falcon(63)]

A cool frosty one!!!!!!!!!!!!! MMmmmmmmmmmm

[62rebelP23]

he'd be buying you a Foster's oilcan, mate. ah, my one weekend of liberty in Perth way back in 1984. Margie Dawson, do you still live with your mum?

[DAVE KNOXX TENN]

They could be made in China, but that is not necessarily a reflection of bad quality.

Cat equipment produced in Japan, Europe or England at the moment doesn’t seem to have followed this trend. It only seems to US made products.

PS. what is a Molson?

Just me But I think Molson Golden a very refreshing drink?????????????

[Tony WestOZ]

Are... Foster`s.

The drink we sent out around the world because no one here drinks it.

[IanT_Qld]

Are... Foster`s.

The drink we sent out around the world because no one here drinks it.

Dead Right, Tony. Haven't had a fosters in decades, Just XXXX up here.

[Tony WestOZ]

Dead Right, Tony. Haven't had a fosters in decades, Just XXXX up here.

XXXX (barbed wire) That`s the reason I started drinking Bundy.

[Don Coatney]

PS. what is a Molson?

Canada's best

[55 Fargo]

If you were near any lumber mills, you could get some rough sawn material and plane it down to the size you need. But looks like your in Illinois, any millwork luber companies around, they may custom cut some material for you.

Lumber is made into standardized sizing now for building construction efficiency, not sure how they arived at there sizing mind you. The 2x4 studs, they are 92 and5/8 inches long, so when you have a bottom plate and a double top plate, you get a true 96 inches or so from subfloor to ceiling, this way the 4 x 8 sheets of Gyproc can be boarded up with a minimal of cutting

[Tom Skinner]

5/4 Board still measures an inch, and buy it wide as you like and rip it Dude!

Tom

[Tom Skinner]

Go to a real Lumber Yard, Lowes is for weekend warrieors, or whatever!