Ernie Baily Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 Can anyone recommend a shop in the Simi Valley/ San Fernando area? Quote
pflaming Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 I understand to repair an R10 is not that difficult, so I'm going to do mine myself. I do not know of a shop, sorry. This is mine, cleaned up but not evaluated yet for workability. Quote
JohnS48plm Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 I've done 2 R10s and with a good manual they aren't too hard. I got my parts from Northwest Transmission. 1 Quote
Ernie Baily Posted January 16, 2018 Author Report Posted January 16, 2018 I have talked with George Asche about it, but I would like to think there is someone closer then Penn. I just don't trust myself to attemp to do the rebuild myself. I'm looking into the shipping costs today. Its just that the car works so good, I hate to tear it down. I've done everything I'm capable of doing myself(At wits end!). Ernie Baily Quote
motterso Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 What is it not doing properly? Might be more of an electrical issue than mechanical. The R10's are pretty tough. Quote
martybose Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 2 hours ago, motterso said: What is it not doing properly? Might be more of an electrical issue than mechanical. The R10's are pretty tough. .... unless you make the mistake of running them a little too low on transmission oil, in which case the OD gears will take an immense dislike for each other and will promptly strip the teeth off of everything. Yes, I can attest to this personally. Marty Quote
Greg51T&CWagon Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 48 minutes ago, martybose said: .... unless you make the mistake of running them a little too low on transmission oil, in which case the OD gears will take an immense dislike for each other and will promptly strip the teeth off of everything. Yes, I can attest to this personally. Hmmm, So can the rear seal be replaced while in the car? Mine's leaking a bit back there. Is it a difficult seal to pull and replace? Quote
pflaming Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 I grew up with overdrives In the '50's and with muddy, rutty, hilly roads, ice, snow, rain and drag racing I never heard of an overdrive failure. I'm getting ready to install mine. I will change the oil, wire it properly and drive it until it quits. Nice thing about that is that if it quits, you can then switch it in to manual to drive home, then put your three speed back in while you repair the OD. JMHO Quote
martybose Posted January 17, 2018 Report Posted January 17, 2018 5 hours ago, pflaming said: I grew up with overdrives In the '50's and with muddy, rutty, hilly roads, ice, snow, rain and drag racing I never heard of an overdrive failure. I'm getting ready to install mine. I will change the oil, wire it properly and drive it until it quits. Nice thing about that is that if it quits, you can then switch it in to manual to drive home, then put your three speed back in while you repair the OD. JMHO All very true. Mine failed because I had had the front of the car jacked way up in the air while I was having the steering box rebuilt, and for several reasons didn't notice the oil coming out of the rear seal. When I took it out to check out the steering fix i shifted into overdrive it whined for about 10 seconds, then let go. As you stated, I stopped, shifted out of overdrive and drove it home. Marty Quote
Ernie Baily Posted January 17, 2018 Author Report Posted January 17, 2018 Mine used to work great, but then it started to pop fuses, so I made a new wiring loom for it. Then one of the little contact points came off in the solenoid, so I ordered a replacement solenoid . Well, the replacement relay was defective according to George Asche. He checked my original and said it was fine. I also replaced the kickdown switch too! I put everything back together along with cleaning up the under dash wiring. Now when I test drive all works great in normal drive, but when I push in the overdrive cable it seems like its working because it freewheels with no noise at all. It also goes into reverse fine so that makes me think the rail lockout switch is fine. but it just won't shift into overdrive( I had the govenor rebuilt too!) when I back off the throttle. The other thing that was mentioned was the voltage thru the system. I'm not sure how to check that. I'm just running out of ideas/things to do! Quote
Rickricca Posted January 18, 2018 Report Posted January 18, 2018 Sounds electric to me check the overdrive solenoid first then work your way back through the governor then the relay the solenoid won’t kick unless the governor gives it power Quote
Mike36 Posted January 18, 2018 Report Posted January 18, 2018 Plyroadking on this forum knows and rebuilds these overdrives. Everyone he rebuilds is installed in his 40 Plymouth and test driven before given to customer. A good guy you can trust. Located in Des Moines, Iowa. 1 Quote
Ernie Baily Posted January 19, 2018 Author Report Posted January 19, 2018 What is email address/phone number? I'm a Iowa boy too, from Cedar Rapids. Quote
plyroadking Posted January 20, 2018 Report Posted January 20, 2018 Thanks Mike! I strive to sell something I know will bolt in and work the first time. Ernie, I've been to Cedar Rapids many times. A good friend I met at Iowa State lives in Waverly, he's a ford guy but I'm sure one day he'll own a quality car. I originally grew up in northern California and still visit a couple times a year. My email address is plyroadking@gmail.com I'd check your lockout switch, I have a jar full of ones that had lube leak into them and insulate the contacts. They are available NOS. I usually troubleshoot them by running a ground wire to the lockout wire terminal on the kickdown switch. I push the cable in, turn the ignition on, (without starting the engine) and listen for the relay and solenoid to click. Quote
Ernie Baily Posted January 20, 2018 Author Report Posted January 20, 2018 I did the test you suggested and I do hear the click. I'm thinking something is not aligned with the solenoid pawl or its not fully engaging, I just don't know what to do! Ernie Quote
Ernie Baily Posted January 25, 2018 Author Report Posted January 25, 2018 Well, As a followup. I found my original solonoid amoung my stuff on my work bench, so I sent it to George Asche to look over to see if it could be repaired. He did repair it and it came in the mail yesterday. So I put it in and low and behold the car worked great everytime! I guess the china repro was not strong enough to totally engage. Now I don't have to rebuild the trans. So Thank You all for your comments and advice! I'm back on the road cruising again! Quote
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