claybill Posted July 30, 2007 Report Posted July 30, 2007 the manifold and 2 carbs is already at $460.00 with an hour to go. dont folks know you can buy them new from offy for $250.00 ?? bill .........carbs are cheap! Quote
Normspeed Posted July 30, 2007 Report Posted July 30, 2007 Been watching that one too. I guess maybe the older Offys are worth more? Quote
claybill Posted July 30, 2007 Author Report Posted July 30, 2007 nope...seen 'em. same casting. it went for $690.00!!! bill Quote
mikk506WA Posted July 30, 2007 Report Posted July 30, 2007 does any one know where i could get a setup like this. thanks, mikk Quote
Normspeed Posted July 30, 2007 Report Posted July 30, 2007 Mikk, I could aim you towards a brand new Offy like that, but you'd have to be willing to pay 1/3 the price. Quote
Heavy Flat Head Posted July 30, 2007 Report Posted July 30, 2007 Mikk, I could aim you towards a brand new Offy like that, but you'd have to be willing to pay 1/3 the price. Shriver me timbers if you only paid 1/3 the price, THAT WOULD MEAN NEW!!! Oh Lord not that. Ed Quote
mikk506WA Posted July 30, 2007 Report Posted July 30, 2007 does any no is a edmonds better than an offy? how about home made? I can get a home made with rebuilt carbs and split exhaust for $725 Quote
captden29 Posted July 30, 2007 Report Posted July 30, 2007 wasn,t shriver a politician? if you do anything to your timbers you should shivver them., capt den Quote
teardrop puller Posted July 30, 2007 Report Posted July 30, 2007 This is the one I bought. He has the carbs and adapters too. http://www.stoveboltengineco.com/acartpro/product.asp?productid=153 kai Quote
Normspeed Posted July 30, 2007 Report Posted July 30, 2007 I think Edmunds is more expensive (rarer) than Offy. A new Offy with linkage kit and fuel line kit included is less than $250. Quite a few home mades out there too. Which is better? Hard to say. For me, running a 218, performance is second to sound. I went with the new Offy and a home made split manifold. Runs great, sounds pretty good too. does any no is a edmonds better than an offy? how about home made? I can get a home made with rebuilt carbs and split exhaust for $725 Quote
Guest rockabillybassman Posted July 30, 2007 Report Posted July 30, 2007 On a street motor pulling under 4000 revs, the difference between homemade and an Offy is going to be negligable. Edmunds is vintage, hence more expensive, but probably no better performance than any other. One thing that cast Offy's etc may have over homemade, is they have a rough unfinished interior, meaning the fuel will swirl better in the runner. This is desirable on a street engine, but still a fairly minor thing. Quote
Guest tagree01 Posted July 30, 2007 Report Posted July 30, 2007 On a street motor pulling under 4000 revs, the difference between homemade and an Offy is going to be negligable. Edmunds is vintage, hence more expensive, but probably no better performance than any other. One thing that cast Offy's etc may have over homemade, is they have a rough unfinished interior, meaning the fuel will swirl better in the runner. This is desirable on a street engine, but still a fairly minor thing. I heard somebody was going to start making new Edmunds. Anybody else heard this? Are they making them already? Quote
knuckleharley Posted July 31, 2007 Report Posted July 31, 2007 does any no is a edmonds better than an offy? how about home made? I can get a home made with rebuilt carbs and split exhaust for $725 The problem with homemade is they are cast iron,and the Offy and other custom intakes are aluminum. This helps keep the heat away from the carbs. Since you can buy a brand new Offy intake complete with the linkage for less than $250,I have no idea why anybody would pay $175 for a homemade cast iron conversion and then still have to buy the linkage. Unless of course you are going for the "50's homemade" look. Quote
martybose Posted July 31, 2007 Report Posted July 31, 2007 I heard somebody was going to start making new Edmunds. Anybody else heard this? Are they making them already? I believe the Edmunds name is owned by Vintage Speed, but the last I heard he wasn't interested in making manifolds. Incidentally, I would argue that an Edmunds is a better manifold than an Offy. It has far better shaped runners (no right angle turns in the air flow) and has a far superior hot water heating system. The only "downside" is that it is substantially taller, which isn't really an issue with our cars. Plus it looks much better than an Offy when it is polished! Marty, who replaced an Offy with an Edmunds ........ Quote
Guest rockabillybassman Posted July 31, 2007 Report Posted July 31, 2007 Marty, did you notice any difference in performance going from the Offy to the Edmunds? I'll agree that Edmunds stuff looks real nice, even the "new" repop stuff (aircleaners etc). Quote
knuckleharley Posted July 31, 2007 Report Posted July 31, 2007 martybose wrote: >>I believe the Edmunds name is owned by Vintage Speed,<< Well,I guess that means no new ones will ever be made. >> but the last I heard he wasn't interested in making manifolds.<< He sure isn't interested in making any inline 4x2 DeSoto hemi intakes. He's been "going to make them" for how many years now? Quote
martybose Posted July 31, 2007 Report Posted July 31, 2007 Marty, did you notice any difference in performance going from the Offy to the Edmunds? I'll agree that Edmunds stuff looks real nice, even the "new" repop stuff (aircleaners etc). I can't really give you a straight answer. I noticed a huge difference in performance/driveability, but I had changed from an Offy with Stromberg 97's to an Edmunds with Carter-Webers. The Carter-Webers definitely work better than the 97's, so I can't really tell how much improvement should be attributed to the manifold change. Marty Quote
bob westphal Posted August 1, 2007 Report Posted August 1, 2007 Many, many years ago I used an Edmunds manifold with 97s. I don't believe it was any better than my new Offy. I also used a home made tri manifold. I didn't care that much for it because of looks. However, it worked well. The main reason I have the Offy is LOOKS. I don't think the extra cost and trouble of finding an old Edmunds is worth the added looks. Adding these bolt on's doesn't really give us that much extra power. Remember, these engine are really obsolete but, even though, I love 'em. Quote
knuckleharley Posted August 1, 2007 Report Posted August 1, 2007 Guys,we are comparing apples and oranges,here. The Edmunds intakes with dual 97's were more suitable for a actual race engine because they used two two barrel carbs. The Offy intakes use two 1 brl carbs,and are more suitable for a mild street engine. Both give the same look,but one is mostly useful for engines that turn up over 4,000 RPM on a regular basis,and the other one is more useful for a typical street engine and can actually improve the gas mileage while looking cool. Don't get me wrong,if I had a shot at a Edmunds intake at a price competitive with a new Offy intake,I'd jump all over it. Since that ain't likely to happen,I'll be buying a new Offy to use on my 42. Quote
martybose Posted August 1, 2007 Report Posted August 1, 2007 Guys,we are comparing apples and oranges,here. The Edmunds intakes with dual 97's were more suitable for a actual race engine because they used two two barrel carbs.The Offy intakes use two 1 brl carbs,and are more suitable for a mild street engine. (snip) All of the Edmunds manifolds that I have seen (including the one I am using) were set up for 2 single barrel carbs, just like the Offy is. I'm using adapters to install my Carter-Webers on the Edmunds, on my Offy we actually welded it up and remachined them for the dual Stromberg 97's. Marty Quote
crosleykook Posted August 1, 2007 Report Posted August 1, 2007 anybody got offy/edmunds comparable pictures handy to post? Anybody run one of these on a fluid drive car, or is that just a complete waste (other than looks)? Then there's the wiring issue. When i popped the hood on my Dodge I could not believe that there was wiring going to the carb! seems so wrong on something so old and otherwise simple. tim Quote
greg g Posted August 1, 2007 Report Posted August 1, 2007 The wiring is for I assume control of the semi automatic trans. If you keep one of the stock carbs you should be able to maintain the circuits. If you have a clunk o matic in your 52 dodge, then the addition of the additional carb is probably eye candy. I am running dual carter 1bbls on a fenton manifold and do notice with some other engine mods a very healty difference in performance in the 40 to 70 range. So transmission aside, it might be a good thing. Quote
Don Coatney Posted August 2, 2007 Report Posted August 2, 2007 The wiring could possibly be for an electric choke. Quote
Roadkingcoupe Posted August 2, 2007 Report Posted August 2, 2007 The wiring on a Fluid Drive carb is for the transmission. I am NOT that technically inclined but its always fun to take something apart to see how it works. If I remember correctly there is a small ball that floats up and down a chamber on the side of the carb. Since Fluid Drives can remain in gear at stop with the clutch ENGAGED I believe it is necessary to drop the idle. Of course I am not an expert and I sold my 47 Desoto coupe fluid drive equiped car about 6 years ago so. So its been a while. Quote
martybose Posted August 2, 2007 Report Posted August 2, 2007 anybody got offy/edmunds comparable pictures handy to post?(snip) tim I'm sure I do, but it will be a couple of days before I can find them. Marty Quote
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