Fluid Drive Rebuild Or Parts Source?

[Jeff Balazs]

You know I don't recall it has been about a year or so since I did that work. I will have to look through my photos to see if I took any of this. Probably not but worth a look.

Jeff

 

Now that you posted the photo I think that this is what I have. I am guessing that it is the rubber to metal of the hub that I am hearing. The hub was not absolutely perfect I probably should have sleeved it instead of cleaning and polishing it.

 

Don't you think if it was that lip hitting the sprocket it would get worse when the clutch was applied?

Jeff

Edited October 8, 2013 by Jeff Balazs

[Young Ed]

Also did you center the cover around the hub?

[Dodgeb4ya]

That steel lip can be very close to the crank gear and chain if the cover has been caved in even a little bit. Pushing the clutch in could move the crank forward a few thousanths and cause noise. Release the clutch and it might go away. Just a thought Jeff.

The pictured one was hitting and made a slight subtle- kinda  hard to describe rotating noise.

Bob

[Jeff Balazs]

Bob;

First let me say I really appreciate your insight here. This has been my first experience with one of these engines or a Mopar product for that matter. And some of this..... while not rocket science has been a challenge. I guess that is true of any old car or truck we try to bring back to life after it has set for god knows how long. I have to say how great it has been to be able to draw upon the wealth of knowledge and experience here.

 

The sound itself goes away when the clutch is pushed ....even slightly......or if I put a few drops of oil behind the pulley towards the timing cover.

I am thinking it may just be the sealing suface on the pulley hub rubbing against the seal funny?  It seems to me the timing chain cover was in real decent shape and I used the hub itself to center the cover. What is the worst that could happen if this seal starts to fail? Small oil leak? I could live with that while I saved some money for a real rebuild. I just don't want to do any serious damage.

 

Jeff

[De Soto Frank]

Bob;

First let me say I really appreciate your insight here. This has been my first experience with one of these engines or a Mopar product for that matter. And some of this..... while not rocket science has been a challenge. I guess that is true of any old car or truck we try to bring back to life after it has set for god knows how long. I have to say how great it has been to be able to draw upon the wealth of knowledge and experience here.

 

The sound itself goes away when the clutch is pushed ....even slightly......or if I put a few drops of oil behind the pulley towards the timing cover.

I am thinking it may just be the sealing suface on the pulley hub rubbing against the seal funny?  It seems to me the timing chain cover was in real decent shape and I used the hub itself to center the cover. What is the worst that could happen if this seal starts to fail? Small oil leak? I could live with that while I saved some money for a real rebuild. I just don't want to do any serious damage.

 

Jeff

 

Worst that will happen is some oil leakage / spatter over the front of the engine...  I've never seen one "wet" from this;  usually just "creeping grunge" as dust & dirt accumlate on external parts that have been exposed to oil-weep.

 

If the seal is really unhappy, it might wear a groove in the damper hub,  but there are sleeve'n'seal kits to correct that.

 

Certainly less complicated and expensive than Fluid Coupling issues !

 

Frank

[Jeff Balazs]

Frank;

Yes I am glad it is not the fluid drive........Boy am I glad!

 

I think I can live with this for a while.

Heck maybe I can even come up with a little remote pump type oiler like they had on total loss machinery back in the day.......a drop of oil about every 15 minutes should keep it quiet. I know I have a couple of extra control cables..........now all I need is a knob that say's "squeal" 

 

Jeff

[Dodgeb4ya]

I'd just run it. Keep an eye on it though.