Barry Maxwell Posted September 13, 2012 Report Posted September 13, 2012 I am hoping to paint my wheels soon, and I would like to use the dodge cream wheel color (or something very close to it). Through the Search Function I came up with the following leads: 1.YS410N CC:H Chromapremier SS Alt:1 2. RAL 1015 or 1014 3.Ditzler 80485 I took this information to our PPG dealer and he wasn't able to cross #! or #3 into his system, and he didn't know what the RAL system is. Since he has been very helpful in successfully crossing paint codes in several of my past projects, I was disappointed, to say the least. My question is, does anyone have any other leads that I can pursue? At this point I am in a dry hole. Thanks. Barry Quote
Dave72dt Posted September 13, 2012 Report Posted September 13, 2012 Have him try YS410N. The rest of the letters and numbers are Dupont's coding for price and that the purchaser had it mixed as a single stage. ChromaPremier is their top shelf product so the numbers should be good. Quote
ggdad1951 Posted September 14, 2012 Report Posted September 14, 2012 my paint guy matched to the RAL colors. Sadly he never gave me the codes. I could bug him again for the codes? Quote
HanksB3B Posted September 14, 2012 Report Posted September 14, 2012 (edited) my paint guy matched to the RAL colors. Sadly he never gave me the codes. I could bug him again for the codes? Mark, he might tell you, but then....you know... he'd have to kill you? Ha, Hank Edited September 14, 2012 by HanksB3B Quote
Barry Maxwell Posted September 14, 2012 Author Report Posted September 14, 2012 Thank you guys for your responses. Dave, I will ask my PPG guy again about YS410N. He did tell me that it was a Dupont paint code, and he thought it was for acrylic enamel and not urethane. Nevertherless, I will pursue it further with him. Hank, I will have him try again on the RAL system. Maybe I wasn't very clear with him about that lead. I dug around in my previous notes and found another lead - EDSGM 366 (whatever that is). My note indicates that the post indicated that it was close, but not exact. Sooo- I will keep on plugging. Thanks again for your help. Barry Quote
Dave72dt Posted September 14, 2012 Report Posted September 14, 2012 Acrylic enamel is also classed as a single stage. Depends on the binder that's mixed in. I would have suspected a urethane mix based on the Premier line over their base Chroma. There's a noticable difference in pricing between the two and a SS urethane in Chroma would probably be less than acrylic in Premier. Quote
Bob_Koch Posted September 15, 2012 Report Posted September 15, 2012 http://dodgepilothouseclub.org/know/color/imgcol/index.htm Wheel colors are addressed at the bottom of the index on the left side Quote
Zeke1953 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Posted September 16, 2012 This should work. I believe it is the original formula. Zeke YS410N CC:H Chromapremier SS Alt: 1 801J HSWHITE 154.8 843J BRIGHT YELLOW 245.1 807J LS BLACK 289.4 853J RED ORANGE 293.9 52320N BINDER 499.3 52330N BALANCER 526.0 Quote
Barry Maxwell Posted September 16, 2012 Author Report Posted September 16, 2012 To close out this thread, I went back to my PPG dealer on Sat. morning and a different guy was behind the counter - one who has worked with me before on paint matching issues. As soon as he saw the RAL number 1014 or 1015 he went to the computer and came up with the PPG code for both numbers. He said there is little difference between the two numbers. He mixed a 4 oz sample of 1015 and I just finished painting the rear of the four rims. I think it looks good - I'm happy. For those who may be interested, it is DCC 920398 Prime and it is acrylic urethane. The OEM code is 1015 and the RAL system calls it Light Yellow. Later this week I will post a photo of the front of the rims when they are painted. Thanks again for all your input on this. Zeke, regarding YS 410N, the guy last week and the one on Sat. said it is a DuPont code and, for some reason, will not cross into the PPG system. I have no idea why. Barry Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted September 16, 2012 Report Posted September 16, 2012 crossing paint codes often requires you to stay within the paint product line..going from a formula for enamel to modern formulated acxrylic enamels and polyurethane is often the problem..most companies that mix to old formulas will tell you up front is as best a match to original using the modern paints..at least if they are honesty with you..I have dealt with DuPont, PPG and R&M dealers and they all tell me the same..close..IF YOU ASK.. Quote
MarkAubuchon Posted September 19, 2012 Report Posted September 19, 2012 Printed out this thread, took it to the parts store. Easy as 1-2-3 numbers matched and they even had a paint chip book to confirm. Quote
ggdad1951 Posted September 19, 2012 Report Posted September 19, 2012 we should ask the admin to create a paint code section some place so it's easier to find for the future people that won't remember this thread and this will get rehashed again. And we could add codes for our trucks/cars so if someone likes the color it's at their fingertips w/o a ton of searching. I know it took me a while on the phone with my paint guy looking at the RAL webpage to settle on the "right" cross ref color and this would have saved me a TON of time/headache! Quote
Barry Maxwell Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Posted September 23, 2012 In post #9 I said that I would post a photo of the rims after they are painted. That photo is the first attachment. I am pleased with the result. Although off the topic of this thread, some time ago I settled on painting my '51 B3C green (with the possible exception of the box). I found a picture of a green truck owned by HanksB3B (the second attachment). I contacted Hank and he volunteered to send a paint sample. He noted that it is not a standard color and he did not have a paint code. I took the sample to my PPG guy, but the paint chip was too small for their scanner. Nevertheless, they were able to find a color that was very close to the chip. They mixed a 4 oz. sample and I painted several small parts (the third attachment). I am also pleased with this result. For those who may be interested, the paint is acrylic urethane DCC 47782 ALT, and it is called Mercedes Seegrun. Quote
HanksB3B Posted September 23, 2012 Report Posted September 23, 2012 Barry, That's pretty close. Wish you had told me you needed a larger color chip. This picture shows what the color is like in person (you know how colors are always photographing different depending on the lighting conditions) Hank Quote
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