Rodney Bullock Posted January 21, 2012 Report Posted January 21, 2012 I just replaced the steering mask or seal in my Studebaker(1941) I was wondering if anyone has seen a steering column seal for a 1940 Plymouth I would like to install a new one in my coupe. Does anyone know of a vender that has these (no andyB does not) It's that seal that is on the floor that the steering column goes though:D Quote
greg g Posted January 21, 2012 Report Posted January 21, 2012 go to the hardware store and get a pumbing vent stack seal (flashing) They come in hole diameters from 1 1/2 inch up to 3 inch. Quote
deathbound Posted January 21, 2012 Report Posted January 21, 2012 go to the hardware store and get a pumbing vent stack seal (flashing) They come in hole diameters from 1 1/2 inch up to 3 inch. Kinda like this? Quote
Bob Riding Posted January 21, 2012 Report Posted January 21, 2012 Rodney, coincidentally, I have been talking with another 1940 plymouth owner who needs a draft seal. I have an old one that can be used as a model for a CA co (MetalRubber) that could make some up for us. we need to get together as many '40 Plymouth owners as possible to spread out the costs, then I can get us a quote. Besides this forum and the POC, any other sources of buyers? Quote
Rodney Bullock Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) Great idea Bob, one thing I want to add. Is there a way to put a slit in the side so we will not have to remove the steering column. On my Stude we put a slight slit on the side so we could pass it over the column makes installation very easy. Edited January 22, 2012 by Rodney Bullock Quote
Bob Riding Posted January 22, 2012 Report Posted January 22, 2012 I don't think it would be a problem to cast it that way. Quote
deathbound Posted January 22, 2012 Report Posted January 22, 2012 Rodney, coincidentally, I have been talking with another 1940 plymouth owner who needs a draft seal. I have an old one that can be used as a model for a CA co (MetalRubber) that could make some up for us. we need to get together as many '40 Plymouth owners as possible to spread out the costs, then I can get us a quote. Besides this forum and the POC, any other sources of buyers? I can't find a "steering column draft seal" in my 1936-1942 master parts book (may be looking for the wrong description though). Would the one for a 1940 be typical (or even real close) for other years? If so, I'm sure a lot more owners (including me) could get in on this to further offset the costs. Quote
deathbound Posted January 22, 2012 Report Posted January 22, 2012 Great idea Bob, one thing I want to add. Is there a way to put a slit in the side so we will not have to remove the steering column. On my Stude we put a slight slit on the side so we could pass it over the column makes installation very easy. Make them without the slit for owners with their cars apart & slit it yourself if needed to avoid removing the steering wheel. Quote
Rodney Bullock Posted January 22, 2012 Author Report Posted January 22, 2012 That's a good point. it could have a doted line when I built my car my column seal was in good shape. I just soaked it with saddle soap. as time went on my seal deteriorated. The wind road debre all kinds of stuff gets in my car now. This part is so generic as most all cars were standart shift so based on the number of screws to hold it down that's the only difference. Quote
40phil41 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 That's a good point. it could have a doted line when I built my car my column seal was in good shape. I just soaked it with saddle soap. as time went on my seal deteriorated. The wind road debre all kinds of stuff gets in my car now. This part is so generic as most all cars were standart shift so based on the number of screws to hold it down that's the only difference. Not necessarily. I think that there are variations. The 1940 Dodge is different than the 1940 Plymouth. The '40 Dodge has the shift rod internal to the steering column whereas I think that the Plymouth is external. i.e. the Plymouth rubber piece has 2 wholes whereas the Dodge has one. Can anyone verify this? My first photo is of my '40 Dodge column whereas the second photo is of my '41 Dodge (Plymouth based) column. Phil Quote
Jim Yergin Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 Isn't the difference the years of manufacture? Don't the 1940 cars have cable shifters and the 1941 have the rods? Another difference is that the 1941s have the shift rod on top of the steering column and the later ones have it on the side. That would mean a different locaction for the shift rod hole in the shield. Jim Yergin Quote
Rodney Bullock Posted January 24, 2012 Author Report Posted January 24, 2012 Jim your right , I forgot I have the cable shift on my 1940. I have been looking at my Stude so much I forgot. I think that's why The gentleman that e-mailed me had a different seal than I have. Good looking out Jim, I have no rod to speak of just the column. I will go down tomorrow and take a pic of mine. Quote
Bob Riding Posted January 24, 2012 Report Posted January 24, 2012 Here is a shot of my P9 (Roadking) draft seal It is rounded pentagon with 2 holes Here is the one I removed from my P10 parts car You can see that they are the same And the repop of the '41 that I purchased from a guy in L.A. a few years ago who made up 15-20 and has sold them all I am interested in the 1940 version for my wagon and would be happy to negotiate with the Metal Rubber guy if we can get some quantity to make it worth his while. Quote
40P10touring sedan Posted January 26, 2012 Report Posted January 26, 2012 Hi folks, here's mine, er...what's left of mine! Where do I sign up for wanting one of those recast...count me in! Quote
40P10touring sedan Posted January 26, 2012 Report Posted January 26, 2012 Isn't the difference the years of manufacture? Don't the 1940 cars have cable shifters and the 1941 have the rods? Another difference is that the 1941s have the shift rod on top of the steering column and the later ones have it on the side. That would mean a different locaction for the shift rod hole in the shield.Jim Yergin I've ran into folks whose car has a cable/rod set up and those who've had twin rods...this was for 40 plymouths. Mine has the rod/cable...rod for R/1st and 2nd/3rd shifting and the cable for the sellection of R/1st to 2nd/3rd range of the trans. Either way my 40 plymouth runs the shift rod down the top of the steering shaft...just for reference sake. Quote
Rodney Bullock Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Posted January 27, 2012 Sorry fellows I have been on vacation with the wife it's our 27 wedding aniversery. We just got back tonite. I am going down to the garage this week end to see what I have :)it's been a long week. Quote
Rodney Bullock Posted February 3, 2012 Author Report Posted February 3, 2012 Ok, so I got a second and got a pic of my column seal and it looks alot like you guy's so How can we get some of these made. I really would like to get this done before I bring the car out for the season. Mine looks real bad:mad: Quote
Bob Riding Posted February 4, 2012 Report Posted February 4, 2012 Rodney, If you can get the 40 Plymouth owners together to see how many need\want one, I'll contact the manufacturer to see what kind of price we can get. Quote
40P10touring sedan Posted February 4, 2012 Report Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) Rodney,If you can get the 40 Plymouth owners together to see how many need\want one, I'll contact the manufacturer to see what kind of price we can get. I'm doing my arlnold horshack impersination here, you just can't see it.....oooh....ooooh...Mr Co-tair{hand raised up, and yes that's my feeble attemp at his acsent}! I have a 40 plymouth group elsewhere{before I joined here} that also entails other years close to 40...were small at only 19 members, but I'll pass along the request! Edited February 4, 2012 by 40P10touring sedan Quote
Rodney Bullock Posted February 4, 2012 Author Report Posted February 4, 2012 OK folks, you heard the man. All that want one please e-mail me so we can get a count. So we can getthem made and installed by spring. Quote
suntennis Posted February 4, 2012 Report Posted February 4, 2012 Did you ever contact Dave Kruse at email of krusn64@aol.com or 626-358-3274 about your seal? He was the one that made the seal for the 1941 car (plymouthasc) with videos showing the restoration. Quote
Rodney Bullock Posted February 4, 2012 Author Report Posted February 4, 2012 That number is no longer good. Does anyone have a more recent number? Quote
40P10touring sedan Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 Any progress on that 40 plymouth seal? I just got all of the shift rod and braket slop removed today in my system - cool -big difference in travel length when I shift! BTW- off topic - where are you guys finding carpet for the front seat area? My car is supposed to have a rubber mat but I'd rather have matching front and rear seat area carpeting. Quote
Rodney Bullock Posted February 12, 2012 Author Report Posted February 12, 2012 I have contacted the Shrock brothers out of Coalport PA they said that if I get them a reasonably good seal to copy they can reproduce them. I will be meeting up with them at York for the Studebaker swap meet in March it will take them some time to make it but they will. On the carpet, I had mine made by a interior man. I don't think you can order it as the P-9 and P-10 did not have carpet in them. Quote
Bob Riding Posted February 12, 2012 Report Posted February 12, 2012 I have contacted the Shrock brothers out of Coalport PA they said that if I get them a reasonably good seal to copy they can reproduce them. I will be meeting up with them at York for the Studebaker swap meet in March it will take them some time to make it but they will. On the carpet, I had mine made by a interior man. I don't think you can order it as the P-9 and P-10 did not have carpet in them. Rodney - if the Shrock brothers can do it, let's go with them. I will take one. Bob Riding Quote
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