Felt washer?

[busycoupe]

I am replacing the front seal on my engine. So far all has gone well. Now I am about to put it back together. I have a Felpro chain cover gasket set. Included in the set is a large felt washer. I am not quite sure where it should go, or if I should use it. There wasn't one on the engine when I took it apart, and the parts book does not show it. The only place it seems to fit is on the shaft of the damper/pulley. Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Dave

[greg g]

From Don C's engine album. Don't know if this is where it got installed, or just an educated guess. Seems to be the logical place as it would absorb any thig weeping past the seat.

The manual shows a special tool to be used for centering the seal/cover assembly before tightening it own. I believe you can eyeball it pretty close then tighten the bolts in an alternating star pattern.

Just looked at my shop manual and it does not show it either.

Edited November 17, 2011 by greg g

[Don Coatney]

From Don C's engine album. Don't know if this is where it got installed, or just an educated guess. Seems to be the logical place as it would absorb any thig weeping past the seat.

That is where it was on my old engine and where I installed it on my Desoto engine.

[busycoupe]

Thanks! It seems to want to go there, but I wasn't sure if there was enough room for it. Does it go on dry? or should I put a little oil or grease where it will rub? Should it be soaked in oil?

Dave

[Don Coatney]

Thanks! It seems to want to go there, but I wasn't sure if there was enough room for it. Does it go on dry? or should I put a little oil or grease where it will rub? Should it be soaked in oil?

Dave

Install it dry.

[busycoupe]

Thanks Don!

[Dodgeb4ya]

If your damper has a cupped recess use the felt washer. Don's has the recess the felt fits into.

Your timing cover new installed oil seal looks to be the type with the steecurved lip oil slinger. It looks kinda like you have the steel lip slinger facing outward? If you do it's backwards!

Bob

[Don Coatney]

If your damper has a cupped recess use the felt washer. Don's has the recess the felt fits into.

Your timing cover new installed oil seal looks to be the type with the steecurved lip oil slinger. It looks kinda like you have the steel lip slinger facing outward? If you do it's backwards!

Bob

Good call! I agree the seal is in backwards. Should look like this.

[aero3113]

Not all engines get the felt washer, if your damper looks like Don's then yes. I had the same question during my rebuild and my damper didn't require it.

[aero3113]

I just saw Dodgebe4ya's post and he is right.

Old and New

Correct installation

[busycoupe]

Bob,

My damper does not have a lip like the one shown in Don's picture. It has a flat face. Should I just leave the felt washer off?

The seal in the cover does have a raised steel ring. I put it in the way that the old one came out. Then again, the old one leaked oil. How can I be sure that it is right?

Dave

[aero3113]

Be VERY careful removing the seal, you do not want to bend the cover if you do the slinger ring will hit the crank gear. As you can see in my last pic it is a VERY close fit.

[busycoupe]

Thanks all! I have not yet assembled it. I will reverse the seal in the morning and do the final assembly.

Dave

[Dodgeb4ya]

Read the above 5 times, it's 100% accurate. That slinger is close to the chain! Do a dry fit 1st to make sure the slinger does not hit the chain. Leave the felt off too. You don't need it and yours is not set up for it.

Bob

[aero3113]

Also put some sealant on both sides of the gasket when you reinstall it, how is the surface of your pulley? I had to install a spedi sleeve on mine.

[busycoupe]

The surface of my pulley shaft is good. I remembered seeing your earlier post about the speedy sleeve so I was careful about inspecting the shaft.

Thanks,

Dave