TheMoose Posted October 10, 2011 Report Posted October 10, 2011 I'm trying to remove the upper hinge pin on the drivers side door so I can mount a rear view mirror but it will not budge when tapped, is there a trick to this? Don't want to bugger up the paint or pin. Thanks. Quote
HanksB3B Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 (edited) want a nut, or a bunch of nuts (which certainly shouldn't be hard to find here on the forum) before you start either tapping with a low impact hammer, or hand tapping with a ball peen hammer after at least overnight soaking with kroil (something I've never used but hear good things about) or other penetrating oil as long as there are no solvents harmful to paint. The goal is to break up rust crystals with the tapping. Certainly, patience is a virtue. Good Luck and be careful, Hank Edited October 11, 2011 by HanksB3B Quote
ggdad1951 Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 what hank said.....make sure you tap on the nut (I used a plastic dead blow). I've used Kroil, awesome stuff. Quote
TheMoose Posted October 11, 2011 Author Report Posted October 11, 2011 I have never heard of Kroil before, better than WD-40? Quote
Rusty O'Toole Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 Putting a couple of nuts on to protect the threads and prevent mushrooming is a good idea. Sometimes you can use an air chisel with a blunt bit to "rattle" the pin loose easier than driving it out with a hammer. Quote
JBNeal Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 ya got a bottle jack and a 4x4 and some old license plates lying around? stick that bottle jack directly underneath the hinge pin, stick the 4x4 up under the pin with metal on each end, and brace the jack against something durn solid, like a building wall or another vehicle. Lift the truck up a tad with the jack and take a break. The next day, lift the truck up a tad more, maybe even assist gravity by taking a few smart whacks at the door hinge; steer clear of the pin by making a pin clearance hole in a 2x4 and put a hard block on top of the holey 2x4. Get some heavy cardboard to protect the paint. Definitely put some penetrating oil on the hinge pin where accessible (WD-40 is to penetrating oil as Danny DeVito is to professional basketball). It'll take a few days to knock that pin out, but very few colorful metaphors will be uttered with this process; you can even be driving that pin out while ya sleep! Quote
ggdad1951 Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 I have never heard of Kroil before, better than WD-40? AeroKroil is the full name...it's a very good penetrating oil. I also use the BPBlaster you can get at NAPA. I think the Kroil is slightly better than Blaster. WD-40 is more of a anti-squeek than a penetrating oil. Quote
TheMoose Posted October 11, 2011 Author Report Posted October 11, 2011 (edited) Putting a couple of nuts on to protect the threads and prevent mushrooming is a good idea. Sometimes you can use an air chisel with a blunt bit to "rattle" the pin loose easier than driving it out with a hammer. Something I always do before beating a bolt with a hammer!! As we were taught in the hose training at the fire academy "always protect the male end". My mistake was assuming the door pin was removed when it was painted' date=' but (Duh) they simply unbolted the whole hinge so removing it will take a bit longer than planned! I'll probably add a door pin to my Roberts order just in case. ya got a bottle jack and a 4x4 and some old license plates lying around? while I'm sure it will work I'll hold this idea in last dash reserve!! And this is from a guy who used to use ether & a lighter to seat truck tires on thier rims in 0 degree weather! Edited October 11, 2011 by TheMoose Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 WD40 is only used for removing corns. Bob Quote
Barry Maxwell Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 I also struggled, without success, in removing the hinge pins. I finally resorted to removing the hinges from the door pillars. Before doing so, however, I drilled small holes in the center of the hinges and through the pillars to help in realligning the doors when they go back on (whenever that may be). With the doors up on my bench the pins were relatively easy to remove with Kroil and a hammer (although I had to use heat on one of them). Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 I have used one of these- plenty of press power. Quote
TheMoose Posted October 11, 2011 Author Report Posted October 11, 2011 There's some good ideas here guys but I am dealing with a freshly painted truck, I'm going to check localy for Kroil & if I can't find it here I'll order from Amazon. Quote
ggdad1951 Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 There's some good ideas here guys but I am dealing with a freshly painted truck, I'm going to check localy for Kroil & if I can't find it here I'll order from Amazon. AeroKroil had a deal for a while 2 for one w/ free shipping... Quote
TheMoose Posted October 11, 2011 Author Report Posted October 11, 2011 AeroKroil had a deal for a while 2 for one w/ free shipping... Right now they have a buy a can of Penephite get a can of any of thier products free but no free shipping Quote
TheMoose Posted October 11, 2011 Author Report Posted October 11, 2011 No auto parts localy had Kroil so I picked up a PB Blaster & Ordered some Kroil direct from thier web site Quote
catfishcuz Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 If kroil is so good why cant you find it in any parts or hardware stores i have not tried it but if its all that it would be everywhere. Quote
TheMoose Posted October 13, 2011 Author Report Posted October 13, 2011 Pro tip, you guys getting ready to paint a truck drive the door hing pins out before you paint the truck, it'll save a lot of headaches if you ever need to remove them again. Quote
ggdad1951 Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) If kroil is so good why cant you find it in any parts or hardware stores i have not tried it but if its all that it would be everywhere. no idea, but I know our maintenance shop uses pretty much that exclusively...I've got two monster cans I got for $12 when they had their special and am happy. But with a little planning anything is only 3-4 days away via the internet. I haven't used "wax" on a vehicle for 10 years, all I use is "Klasse all in one" which is only available via the net, and the stuff is WAY better than any other paint protectorant I've seen. Edited October 13, 2011 by ggdad1951 Quote
TheMoose Posted October 13, 2011 Author Report Posted October 13, 2011 If kroil is so good why cant you find it in any parts or hardware stores i have not tried it but if its all that it would be everywhere. It's very hard to get a new product on the shelves at your local parts store. If it works like a grocery store you have to pay the store to carry your item. There are a lot of great products out there that can only be found on the internet because of the expense in marketing & putting it on store shelves. That's one of the great things about Amazon, if you can't find it localy you can find it there. Quote
Don Coatney Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 It's very hard to get a new product on the shelves at your local parts store.If it works like a grocery store you have to pay the store to carry your item. There are a lot of great products out there that can only be found on the internet because of the expense in marketing & putting it on store shelves. That's one of the great things about Amazon, if you can't find it localy you can find it there. I agree that Amazon is a good place to find all kinds of things. I had a grandson that was looking for a book this morning. I found a good used copy of the book he wanted on Amazon for under three bucks. New book was over fifteen bucks. I also bought a couple of movies this morning for three bucks each. I have bought movies for a penny on Amazon in the past. Quote
TheMoose Posted October 13, 2011 Author Report Posted October 13, 2011 I agree that Amazon is a good place to find all kinds of things. I had a grandson that was looking for a book this morning. I found a good used copy of the book he wanted on Amazon for under three bucks. New book was over fifteen bucks. I also bought a couple of movies this morning for three bucks each. I have bought movies for a penny on Amazon in the past. I'm on Amazon prime, I pay like $70 a year to get "free" 2 day shipping, as much as I get from them it works out to be a pretty good deal. I even found a reprint of the 53 B4 owners manual there. Quote
TheMoose Posted October 13, 2011 Author Report Posted October 13, 2011 I just checked out the "as seen on trucks" commercial on thier web site, Kroil has been around a while because Stacey David hasn't been on Trucks in years. Quote
Don Coatney Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 I just checked out the "as seen on trucks" commercial on thier web site, Kroil has been around a while because Stacey David hasn't been on Trucks in years. I believe the can of Kroil I have in my garage I bought over 10 years ago. A little goes a long way so use sparringly. Quote
Barry Maxwell Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 Kroil (a.k.a. AeroKroil) is listed on page 64 of the current Eastwood catalog for $27 (16.5 oz. aerosol can). A can will go a long way, but it won't loosen every nut/bolt. Quote
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