ticking sound at timing cover

[BeBop138]

I know where the problem is-----the dust cover with the felt that goes over the crank end on the timing cover----it moves slightly in and out with acceleration. Would the hub not be tightened enough ?It seemed tight as I used the impact to snug it up. It just bottoms out as I remember---if that is the case, I guess I would take it apart this winter and see if it would take a few more turns. If there is any other way of installing the cover let me know.I still wonder why they use it anyway, the seal on the timing cover should suffice?.....Thanks...........Lee

[jd52cranbrook]

If you mean the crank is moving in and out during acceleration, you have a problem.

Or I should say forward and rearward.

[Don Coatney]

The rubber insert in your harmonic balancer may have de-laminated.

[BeBop138]

I will re-check-----it looks like the dust cover is the only part moving....Lee

[suntennis]

If you by chance have just replaced the front crankshaft seal just prior to having the problem, the noise may be from the seal. When I replaced my seal, the new seal was longer than the one removed. The timing chain or something was hitting the seal. The fix was grinding down the area that extended toward the timing gear to give more clearance.

[Dodgeb4ya]

If you by chance have just replaced the front crankshaft seal just prior to having the problem, the noise may be from the seal. When I replaced my seal, the new seal was longer than the one removed. The timing chain or something was hitting the seal. The fix was grinding down the area that extended toward the timing gear to give more clearance.

I second this thick/or replacement seal issue-had it happen to me. Now I Always check seal to T/C clearance- it can cause this same noise talked about.

Bob

[BeBop138]

I finally got a chance to look again---been redoing the kitchen. No movement on the balancer, just on the dust cover piece. If the seal is making the noise it will be the third time taking the front apart--ouch:mad:. If the chain is hitting the seal wouldn`t it be a constant sound, not intermintant. Don---does your dust cover move in and out with acceleration.........thanks.....Lee

[Don Coatney]

Don---does your dust cover move in and out with acceleration.........thanks.....Lee

If it does I have never seen it. I do my best accelerating behind the sterering wheel;)

[BeBop138]

If it does I have never seen it. I do my best accelerating behind the sterering wheel;)

Maybe we should see who does that the best someday:D lol.............Lee

[suntennis]

The noise I had as a result of the seal extension was not a grinding sort of thing. If my memory is correct, when the engine was first started, there was no noise at all. As soon as the noise started, it was determined where it was comming from and the timing cover was removed and there was indication that there was metal contact. If your seal extends 1/2 inch or so towards the timing chain, you may have a problem. With the cover off, look at the the edge of the seal if it as described and see if ther is any sign of metal contact. If there is no sign of contact, then your problem must be elsewhere.

[Don Coatney]

Maybe we should see who does that the best someday:D lol.............Lee

Someday I hope we can do so.

[Young Ed]

Someday I hope we can do so.

Not someday next summer.

[BeBop138]

Not someday next summer.

If Don doesn`t mind you can be the flag man. May the BIG race live on:D

[BeBop138]

The noise I had as a result of the seal extension was not a grinding sort of thing. If my memory is correct, when the engine was first started, there was no noise at all. As soon as the noise started, it was determined where it was comming from and the timing cover was removed and there was indication that there was metal contact. If your seal extends 1/2 inch or so towards the timing chain, you may have a problem. With the cover off, look at the the edge of the seal if it as described and see if ther is any sign of metal contact. If there is no sign of contact, then your problem must be elsewhere.

Just before I put LuLu away for the winter I will take off the balancer,pulleys,belts,radiator,dust cover. Start it for just a few minutes and see if the noise goes away---I really don`t want to take it apart again---time will tell..........thanks guys for the tip on the seal---hoping it is not the problem.....Lee

[Don Coatney]

If Don doesn`t mind you can be the flag man. May the BIG race live on:D

The big race is over and I won, nevermind what blueskies has to say:rolleyes: So if you want to start a little race that is fodder for another tiny little thread:cool:

Young Ed as a flagman:confused: Not sure if his beautiful young bride would allow him such pleasure?

So what is this big event Young Ed keeps aluring to?

[Don Coatney]

Just before I put LuLu away for the winter

AWAY for the winter? I dont understand:confused:

[BeBop138]

How tiny a thread should we do? LuLu doesn`t like -20 below---she comes into the shop for more upgrades----BIG event could be Back to the Fifties in June---great time---12 thousand cars 64 and older---it would be fun if you could come:cool:----think about it............Lee

[BeBop138]

The rubber insert in your harmonic balancer may have de-laminated.

Don, does the felt and cover stay stationary or does it rotate with the crank. Mine turns with the crank and moves back to front when I give it throttle. I think this is the problem----can`t understand why there is so much movement on this cover----any thoughts........Lee

[Don Coatney]

Don, does the felt and cover stay stationary or does it rotate with the crank. Mine turns with the crank and moves back to front when I give it throttle. I think this is the problem----can`t understand why there is so much movement on this cover----any thoughts........Lee

How much end play do you have in your crankshaft? Is your fan belt pulley also moving front to back? Has the rubber de-laminated in your vibration damper? There should be no movement front to back. However the felt itself may flop around a bit as it is not glued down but it also should not be visible.

[BeBop138]

Don, pic looks the same as yours----1/8 or less inch of movement of the dust cover. No movement of the pulley or balancer---have to check with the front pulley and balancer, dust cover removed. Did all the engines have these covers on them---218-230 ect. More later.......just frustrating to get it all together and have a problem you can`t determine where it is coming from:confused:....Thanks .......Lee

[BeBop138]

Finally solved the problem-----here are some pics of how it goes on. Dummy me I put the dust cover on before the crank flange. For reference the belt pulley smooth side goes towards engine.---------------AGAIN take your time and mistakes will not happen like this---dunderhead!!!!

[norrism1]

It's the annoyance factor that gets ya!