Motor #

[mr63inaz]

Ok sorry i'm sure this comes up a lot but I have searched in every combination of motor id / engine # etc. and ca not find a chart or info how to decipher this number. I have a # on my 1947 title that says p15844961 that same number is on the motor. Cool this means original motor to the car but waht size is it?? I also found some other numbers after spending 3 hours and 40 bucks in quarters at the car wash yesterday. any Idea gurus of #'s

[55 Fargo]

Ok sorry i'm sure this comes up a lot but I have searched in every combination of motor id / engine # etc. and ca not find a chart or info how to decipher this number. I have a # on my 1947 title that says p15844961 that same number is on the motor. Cool this means original motor to the car but waht size is it?? I also found some other numbers after spending 3 hours and 40 bucks in quarters at the car wash yesterday. any Idea gurus of #'s

There is also a number on your A post tag, serial number, this number will confirm approx manufacture date, and what plant.

There is a number on the frame too, not sure if that is the serial number too, or engine number. That might help determine the origin of the engine, if it is infact the OEM engine....

[Young Ed]

Lots of states titled by the engine # back then. Engine should be a 218.

[mr63inaz]

There is also a number on your A post tag, serial number, this number will confirm approx manufacture date, and what plant.

There is a number on the frame too, not sure if that is the serial number too, or engine number. That might help determine the origin of the engine, if it is infact the OEM engine....

Even with not knowing the american car stuff to well the motor and title match from 1947 the only sad thing is az mvd made get a new title

Edited February 8, 2010 by mr63inaz

[greg g]

It appears that the serial number is there also. 26009463 that should be on a platee on the A pillar. You can look up the serial number within its sequence if you go to the main page that hosts this forum. There is a wealth of information there regarding these vehicles. You can find from the serial number when and where the car was assembled.

My bet would be the LA assembly facility.

Engine is a 218 cu in, rated at 97 HP.

[mr63inaz]

AZ guys, does that title indicate a MTR CHG?

Changed in 1953?, or just noted that the engine had been changed previous to the issuing of that title to a new owner in 53.

Az mvd told me that the guy bought the car in 1947 and did not receive the title til his loan was paid in full hence he received his title in 1953.

It is a one owner car well 2 owner now by title. the car really has not been touch since the 70's so I'm told

It was originaly sold at Clark smith a dealership here in phoenix. I am told it came from a factory or assembly plant in Ca.

[mr63inaz]

Well does this make sense ??

Door Sedan $1,164 3,047 Detroit: 15206936-15252278 Los Angeles: 26003589-26010839 Evansville: 22043040-22063369

[55 Fargo]

Hi, how about some pics orf your car, nice to see the Girl were talkin about..........Fred

[mr63inaz]

Well here you go I will update with some motor pics in the am

[thrashingcows]

Hey someone gave your car a black eye.....

[Niel Hoback]

Thats a mighty nice lookin car you got there. Of course I'm predjudiced since its exactly like mine. When I got mine in '94, it had a dent just like yours in the middle of the back bumper too!

[mr63inaz]

Hey someone gave your car a black eye.....

Ya my buddy is calling it one eyed Jack now. One of the many little things I need to handle.

[mr63inaz]

Thats a mighty nice lookin car you got there. Of course I'm predjudiced since its exactly like mine. When I got mine in '94, it had a dent just like yours in the middle of the back bumper too!

Ya the asses used a tow rope to pull it from the old mans yard. twisted up the splash pan two but of all the dammage on the car thats the worst of it . Iguess I shouldn't complain. I really would like to know when standing there going how we gonna get this car out one comes up with lets use the bumper?? Strainge happens a lot with old vws as well.

[Young Ed]

Its hard to tell but if that black eye is a bulls eye headlight don't throw it away!

[mr63inaz]

I'm not familiar bullsye?? to me it looks like a blown out sealdbeam ?? thers no continuity through it on eith element .

[Young Ed]

Its kind of hard to see but Merles truck has them. The very center has a circle of glass that is smooth. Also even if its just a really old sealed beam I might be interested. I've got 1 that is original to my car. The old lenses can be transfered to a 6v halogen backing.

[mr63inaz]

Very cool Kinda like a euro lense on a vw .

[mr63inaz]

Its kind of hard to see but Merles truck has them. The very center has a circle of glass that is smooth. Also even if its just a really old sealed beam I might be interested. I've got 1 that is original to my car. The old lenses can be transfered to a 6v halogen backing.

Btw Ed my name is Ed good name good cars I let you know on the lights I tend not to throw away any old auto parts they always seem to have alternitive uses

[greg g]

The bullseye lenses have a circle of clear glass in the center or the otherwise fluted lens. The lenses and the lights are a coveted commodity as they were original equipment for Mopars in the earlu to mid 50's. They than fell out of favor are were legislated out of existance as the Federal lighting standards for sealed beam lamps were coming to the fore.

The lenses can be carefully removed and swaped over to the older style Euro coversion lights, (Cibie Hella Bosche )

I have a pair on my car, and they do produce a unique beam pattern that is in some ways superior to the standard round sealed beam .

Generally what happens is tha the bulb blows, and or over time the seal between the reflector and the lens fails and the silver on the reflector tarnishes giving the black eye look.

[mr63inaz]

The bullseye lenses have a circle of clear glass in the center or the otherwise fluted lens. The lenses and the lights are a coveted commodity as they were original equipment for Mopars in the earlu to mid 50's. They than fell out of favor are were legislated out of existance as the Federal lighting standards for sealed beam lamps were coming to the fore.

The lenses can be carefully removed and swaped over to the older style Euro coversion lights, (Cibie Hella Bosche )

I have a pair on my car, and they do produce a unique beam pattern that is in some ways superior to the standard round sealed beam .

Generally what happens is tha the bulb blows, and or over time the seal between the reflector and the lens fails and the silver on the reflector tarnishes giving the black eye look.

NEat! cool info

[thrashingcows]

The bullseye lenses have a circle of clear glass in the center or the otherwise fluted lens. The lenses and the lights are a coveted commodity as they were original equipment for Mopars in the earlu to mid 50's. They than fell out of favor are were legislated out of existance as the Federal lighting standards for sealed beam lamps were coming to the fore.

The lenses can be carefully removed and swaped over to the older style Euro coversion lights, (Cibie Hella Bosche )

I have a pair on my car, and they do produce a unique beam pattern that is in some ways superior to the standard round sealed beam .

Generally what happens is tha the bulb blows, and or over time the seal between the reflector and the lens fails and the silver on the reflector tarnishes giving the black eye look.

I'll definetly keep my eyes open for those as well....Thanks for the info and history lesson!!