IronMike Posted January 9, 2010 Report Posted January 9, 2010 No wonder my brakes are in need of a major reworking...... If this is what they look like after sitting in a climate controlled garage for 9 years, I would hate to see what a "barn" or a "field" find would look like. I will be going the sleeve route and replace all the metal lines and hoses as well. The brake shoes had plenty of lining left but were ruined by the leaking mess. I have never seen this kind of contamination in a system before. Truly a testament to how hard it is on a car to sit without use for an extended period of time. Quote
greg g Posted January 9, 2010 Report Posted January 9, 2010 ah that just the hydroscopic tendancy of the brake fluid at work. Youda though they coulda come up with somthing that wouldn't suck moisture out of the atmosphere. I guess that's why DOT 5 silicone stuff was developed. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted January 9, 2010 Report Posted January 9, 2010 How about a little bit of silicone damage done to the shoes by a leaking wheel cylinder! Bob Quote
randroid Posted January 9, 2010 Report Posted January 9, 2010 Dodgeb4ya, You telling me that DOT 5 silicone did that? Before putting Pigiron back on the road I intend to go through the brake system and since I'll be replacing lines and hoses I toyed with the idea of using silicone-based brake fluid, but that emulsification turns me off. When you began using DOT 5 had you completely cleaned any old DOT 3 from the system? I hear they don't particularly like each other and am wondering if that gunk is a manifestation of their intense feelings. -Randy Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted January 9, 2010 Report Posted January 9, 2010 Dodgeb4ya,You telling me that DOT 5 silicone did that? Before putting Pigiron back on the road I intend to go through the brake system and since I'll be replacing lines and hoses I toyed with the idea of using silicone-based brake fluid, but that emulsification turns me off. When you began using DOT 5 had you completely cleaned any old DOT 3 from the system? I hear they don't particularly like each other and am wondering if that gunk is a manifestation of their intense feelings. -Randy Yes- silicone dissolved these linings! I do highly recommend Dot 5- On this old turd I just flushed system/honed the M/C, W/cyls and they leaked after about 6-7 years. I didn't really care as I have way too many cars to keep after. I do have dot 5 in other cars and they are 100% A-OK. If I would have put brand new USA wheel cylinders in it this wouldn't have happened. Guess now I'll have to buy a new set of hydraulics for this one. Bob Quote
48P15Annie Posted January 9, 2010 Report Posted January 9, 2010 WOW! Those are bad! Miss Annie hasn't really been driven in about 6th months or more. Up to the corner for gas...that's about it. The brakes were totally overhauled a couple years ago. So hopefully, her sitting so long, won't cause much, if any damage until the weather thaws and we can drive her a bit. Quote
greg g Posted January 9, 2010 Report Posted January 9, 2010 Good luck finding USA new wheel cylinders. More likely Taiwan, Mexico, China. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted January 9, 2010 Report Posted January 9, 2010 Gregg yo are right on that! I have bought 2 complete sets of the 46-54 wheels cyls/master cyl. 1st set was USA, 2nd set Chinese. Returned them and reordered and got USA made. I think offshore is all that will be available really soon for these Lockheed type wheel cylinders! I also bought a new power window motor for a 2000 Chevy Suburban from the chevy dealer and it said AC Delco-"Made in China"!!!!!!!!!!! Awful Bob Quote
IronMike Posted January 9, 2010 Author Report Posted January 9, 2010 After reading some of the problems others have had with aftermarket wheel cylinders, coupled with the fact that I didn't think just rebuilding them would last in the long term..... I will be sleeving these. Surprised about the DOT 5 pic, since I am replacing the whole system I had thought about going that route. Anyone here have more DOT 5 input to share? Thanks, Mike Quote
Cpt.Fred Posted January 9, 2010 Report Posted January 9, 2010 when i opened my brakes, the ride had been sitting for about 10 years. i drove it down the trailer and it stopped, the brakes released immediately after letting go the brake pedal. "now that's nice" i thought and went on fixing other stuff. when i finally got to the brakes i had purchased a complete set of rubber kits for all wheels and the main cyl, "just in case" i thought. i opened the front drums and saw completey crusted THINGS without any function whatsoever. i had to blow the pistons out with air, worked on one side. the others i had to get out with my bench vise, one of them had been broken into 3 or 4 pieces long before and had been GLUED together ( i am afraid someone over there at your place did that *scaaaaary*...). the story of my rear drums can be read somewhere in this forum, it contains a lot of BFH and such... now i have completely changed everything on the brake system, EXCEPT the master cylinder, i only honed it and put a rebuild kit in there. now guess what keeps me from driving... can anyone tell me what stopped me the day i drove down the trailer ramp? i don't know really. Quote
Niel Hoback Posted January 9, 2010 Report Posted January 9, 2010 May have been your guardian angel that did the stopping, since your brakes were marginal at best. Quote
Cpt.Fred Posted January 10, 2010 Report Posted January 10, 2010 magic it was, anyway:D always CHECK a running system... Quote
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