martndaddy Posted October 7, 2009 Report Posted October 7, 2009 i have a 51 fargo 1 ton pickup with the 16" split rims.are there any common rims that will work that will replace these? it has a 6 bolt pattern. thank you Quote
Guest P15-D24 Posted October 7, 2009 Report Posted October 7, 2009 Big difference. Any truck tire shop will work on them. Quote
MBF Posted October 7, 2009 Report Posted October 7, 2009 martndaddy-do a search-I've posted pictures on the forum someplace on these from my 1 ton. There are at least 3 different offsets on these locking ring style rims-2 for single wheel setup, and 1 for duals. Fords, IH's, & Dodge used this bolt pattern up through the early 60's. If you want to go drop center, you're going to have to look for 17's or 17.5's from the late 50's to 60's-and then finding tires may become an issue. Mike Quote
bach4660 Posted October 8, 2009 Report Posted October 8, 2009 I searched everything modern (70's to today) and didnot find any rim that fits. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted October 8, 2009 Report Posted October 8, 2009 These are the 1 ton wheels that are on our dodge trucks and as said before on 1 ton fords/IH/studebakers and more up through about 1965 at least on the dodges-6 stud/6 handholes. Later years use a wider rim which is good. Bob Quote
PatS.... Posted October 8, 2009 Report Posted October 8, 2009 My 1965 Dodge D300 has these type rims. I was remounting them onto the truck the other day and noticed that the bolt holes are odd. Some are innies and some are outies as per your pics. I've never seen that before. Does anyone know the purpose of this oddity???? I was told by a big truck tire shop that tubeless rims with this bolt pattern were available new for about $150(Can). He said I would have to order them and they could be here from their warehouse next day. Quote
Young Ed Posted October 8, 2009 Report Posted October 8, 2009 Those bolt holes are for duals so the 2 rims lock together. Quote
PatS.... Posted October 8, 2009 Report Posted October 8, 2009 Those bolt holes are for duals so the 2 rims lock together. So they shouldn't be on the front??? Or are all six the same?? Quote
4852dodge Posted October 8, 2009 Report Posted October 8, 2009 All six wheels are the same. The wheels are "coined" to interlock while mounted to the truck. The single rear uses the same bolt pattern but the offset is different and they are not coined. The term coined is what the old tire guys refer to as the ridge around the lug hole. Please find out the maker of the new wheels. I have not had any luck locating new wheels here in New England. All I am told is to call Stockton Wheel. Quote
Kingdave Posted October 8, 2009 Report Posted October 8, 2009 On my 1 ton I picked up the rims were rotted off , I used a set off a late 60s or early 70s International 1 ton , a little more offset then stock but not noticable , the like new tires that came on them were a nice bonus ! Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted October 9, 2009 Report Posted October 9, 2009 The front wheels are different than the 1 ton rears.They have no inward setback (offset). The front rims are almost evenly flush across the face of inner flat hub area and outer ring. Front rims are not coined- just 6 countersunk holes for the lug nuts. Here is the only picture I've got showing the front rim. You could use the rear style on the front- front tread would be wrong though. Bob Quote
Frank Ollian Posted October 9, 2009 Report Posted October 9, 2009 Over the years some of these trucks may have wheels that are not the ones they came with. I have four B1D and B2D trucks, on the two that are dually all six wheels are the same, same offset and all six coined. On the two single wheel trucks all four wheels are the same, same offset and not coined, the offset is less than the dual wheels. I also have a 64 D300 dually, all six wheels are coined, all have the same offset. These wheels look like they should work on the earlier trucks and vise versa. I'm interested in what wheels and combinations where available, what is everyone else using? Thanks. Frank Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted October 9, 2009 Report Posted October 9, 2009 I think the B series single wheel 1 ton models use all (4) the same near flush offset wheels. If the truck is a dually 1 ton than the 4 rears must be the coined offset type so the tires don't hit each other. The fronts are flush offset even on the dually 1 tonners at least on the B series trucks from all the old B series I have seen over the past 30 years. Bob Quote
MBF Posted October 9, 2009 Report Posted October 9, 2009 Here's pics of the single and dually offsets. There is a 3rd rim used on the Kaiser Military Jeeps of the 70's that has an even shallower offset. Quote
4852dodge Posted October 12, 2009 Report Posted October 12, 2009 The dual rear trucks used the same offset wheels with coining for all positions just as they do on a modern truck. The earlier trucks had 4 1/2 rim width and the later ones were wider and had more of an offset. The non coined wheels regardless of width were used on the single wheel rear axle trucks in all positions. The offset was very different. It was common to put the single wheel type on the front for a wider track but if a single wheel rim was used as a dual the rims and tires would hit each other. I hope this helps. Quote
freiertpc Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 i need a 6-lug 1 ton single axle rim in 16" does anyone want to sell one? Quote
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